Index vs Search Results

[PuppyDogWeb]

Does Yahoo use some type of grading of sites, or does it demote sites at will?

It has been a up and down year with them first with excellent traffic to a decline over the past few months. Our site is index and as we use site explorer so we see that cache of pages being updated constanting. Yet if you type a title of one our pages you can not find it or it may be hundreds of pages down the search index. If you type our domain name it shows 33,700 pages indexed.

We did find one problem that they had index our site under https://, where as we only utilize one directory on a window server with https://, we never promoted the secured directory and had the pages as no index, no follow, but for some reason they found it and added it to the index and then added other pages in the site. We are currently trying to resolve this with adding that Slurp should not visit the directory in the robot.txt. Hopefully they will not scan the secured directory again. They could be penalizing us with this, but not sure. They also cached some pages as http://https://puppydogweb.com/canin.../rhodesian.htm. We sent a message to Site Explorer's forum and one of their employees suggested we place the secure site on another domain. It may be a last resort we do if we can not get them to stop scanning the site under https.

With us being in the index, yet not in search results we do not know who to ask what the problem is. Any thoughts or suggestions on where to go would be appreciated?

[erikko]

i also got that same question in my mind

[incrediblehelp]

They use a algorithm that is constantly being tweaked, just like most every other search engine.

[incrediblehelp]

I personally feel they use "hand jobs" more than any other search engine though.

[crankydave]

There's a problem.

Not sure where, how or why, but there's a problem. It "appears" to be strictly with Yahoo.

I'll send you a PM.

Dave

[incrediblehelp]

Dave did you send me that PM? I have an issue with a website right now with yahoo I cant put my finger on.

[PuppyDogWeb]

After receiving crankydave PM regarding what he thought was a problem we contact Yahoo Abuse.

This is their answer:

Yahoo! Search" <search-abuse@cc.yahoo-inc.com>

Hello,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Search.

You should contact the site owner or site content provider if you feel
that information should be removed. Yahoo! does not control and is not
responsible for such content.

After the site has removed or corrected the published content, the
information in the search database will be corrected by our normal
content refresh processes. You may still see the pages listed in our
databases for some time after the site content or control documents are

changed. The changes will take effect in our search database when the
information is updated in our next refresh cycle.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Search.

Regards,

Damon

Yahoo! Customer Care

43798940


I guess they really do not care about their search index if they allow site adult sites in and do not remove them from their index, even when you present to them that they are there and they linking to legitimate sites without their permission, screwing up our ability to maintain search results!! Like we can get any results from contacting a foreign adult site.

Frustrated beyond belief!

[chowell]

Yahoo doesn't seem to like over optimized websites, so if you're working on one and seeing fluctuating rankings (or poor rankings), then you might look to see if you're too optimized. On the other hand, you could kill your Google rankings if you make changes... pick your poison.

[erikko]

i guess you do these things all together you know to play it safe in SE's

[ursfehr]

Yahoo doesn't seem to like over optimized websites,