Forum Sigs and SEO

[ctabuk]

This is probably my most controversial topic subject. And it is possibly the only thing that crankydave and I disagree on.

Sorry CD you know how much respect I have for you.

We created a page named Homebuy Brokers it is very recent. OK it is not a hugely searched title, but in the UK it will be!

Here are the Yahoo results. You will see the WPW Thread has cropped up.

Now, personally I think that this proves my point that SEO and forum usernames and related topics are indexed by the SE's. But as always I have a totally open mind.

Over to my peers.
WEB RESULTS
http://www.counciltenantsmortgages.c...y-brokers.html
CTAB Mortgage Desk. Homebuy Brokers ... Shared Ownership Remortgages. Homebuy Brokers. Latest Social Homebuy News. Key Worker Mortgages ...http://www.counciltenantsmortgages.c...y-brokers.html - 6k - Cached - More pages from this site
Advantage Innovative Lending
... range, Flexishare Home Ownership Plan and HomeBuy via the intermediary market. ... today made its new self-certification product range available to brokers direct. ...http://www.adv-elect.co.uk/marketing...p?item=homebuy - 77k - Cached - More pages from this site
:: Computer Brokers HomeBuy Programme ::
Computer Brokers and Compaq have got together to offer you a Fantastic way to buy a home PC. ... Website ©2001 Computer Brokers (Auckland) Ltd ...www.homebuy.co.nz - 5k - Cached - More pages from this site
Mortgages, Affordable Home Schemes, Life Assurance, Award Winning Broker, SPF Sherwins
Broker your mortgage ... Open Market HomeBuy is a scheme that aims to help certain groups ... to make monthly payments on the HomeBuy agent's equity loan. ...www.sherwins.co.uk/Openmarkethomebuy.html - 8k - Cached - More pages from this site
WebProWorld :: View topic - Forum Sigs and SEO
In the example you gave, homebuy brokers, it's really nothing to do with your user name. ... Homebuy Brokers ctabuk. Would turn up the same 4 results ...www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=72564 - 147k - Cached - More pages from this site
Social Homebuy - Shared Ownership Schemes Information by CTAB
This site is Authorised and Regulated by the Financial Services Authority. ...


Yes - we got listed twice. Cool!!

http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=72564

[ctabuk]

Well I appreciate the enthusiasm.

Further evidence came in my Google Alerts this morning. Here it is

http://www.feedshow.com/show_items-f...18d6d5915b4cba

Now what do you make of that ???

[kgun]

Originally Posted by ctabuk

This is probably my most controversial topic subject. And it is possibly the only thing that crankydave and I disagree on.

My bolding.

What about Google PageRank?

Kgun wrote in the related thread:

Conclusion:

• Generally GoogleBOT indexes names on forums.
• That does not necessarily imply that GoogleBOT indexes names on that special forum. For one or another reason (e.g. legal), they may have written the code so that SE bots are not allowed to index names.

Hope that that clear my view.

Any disagreement to that?

[ctabuk]

Stay on topic please. If you wish to raise really old threads then please do so in the correct section. Thanks

[incrediblehelp]

I have seen rankings just from WPW signature link testing before in Yahoo. No other SE's though.

[ctabuk]

Well this came in this very morning from Google Alerts
Luton BC - Key worker housing
Key worker housing. Primary aged children at desk Teachers in Luton are ...
Shared Equity, where typically you will take out a mortgage for 50% of the cost ...
http://www.luton.gov.uk/internet/hea...%20housing.htm - Rank 198 - cached - this is relevant | irrelevant * * * * *


Key public sector workers - Communities and Local Government
Whilst the majority of the key workers are intrinsically motivated to join ...
1.3.6 Informed awareness of current Government key worker housing schemes ...
https://CTAB Edit Broken linkRank 199 - cached - this is relevant | irrelevant * * * * *


WebProWorld :: View topic - Forum Sigs and SEO
CTAB Mortgage Desk. Homebuy Brokers ... Shared Ownership Remortgages. Homebuy Brokers.
Latest Social Homebuy News. Key Worker Mortgages ...
http://webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?p=364149 - Rank 182 - cached - this is relevant | irrelevant * * * * *


I'm not trying to set the SEO world on fire, but something is happening.

[kgun]

The second link is broken.

Originally Posted by ctabuk

Well this came in this very morning from Google Alerts

How is the relationship between Google Alerts, GoogleBOT and the Google index / archive? That is the question.

Pure speculation:
Is it possible that some of the SE's have a weighting system for forum sigs based on the relevance of the members posts? As long as something is indexed (stored in a database), it can also be weighted and manipulated by various types of algorithmes.

[ctabuk]

Yes, pure speculation. But if you ignore your given known Google links, and do a (Yes I know this is old, but what goes around etc) "linksto""yoursite" then the odds are that the search will result in Link related topics in forums. Whereas if you do a simple "counciltenantsmortgages" or the same with any site, WHERE the owner/user is a known forum player you will see that the links are still very forum related. The longer the thread the more 'linksto'.

In fact, one forum cottoned on to it, and NO I cannot say which one, but they were using their usernames as link bait for paying customers. So I think I was correct all along and that usernames and SEO tatics go hand in glove. I would add that it was not my forum, and I thank the heavens that I did not try it. As Google has locked off those links and the posters IBL counts have been sorely disrupted.

Self Edit - I just had a e-mail alert that a thread I was in had had a reply. No big deal. But that thread has been resurrected by thedark and it is nearly two years old. Why he posted on it is anybody's guess. But I cannot complain as we tell new posters to read previous posts to learn from others. So now that a really old post is back on top, it will get crawled. Is it 'New Content' for the bots - or will they recognise it. My guess is that it will be date indexed and ignored. You???

[kgun]

Originally Posted by ctabuk

In fact, one forum cottoned on to it, and NO I cannot say which one, but they were using their usernames as link bait for paying customers.

Interesting. Is it not possible for you to find the article?

Originally Posted by ctabuk

So I think I was correct all along and that usernames and SEO tatics go hand in glove.

Everything that has a potential to be used for SEO purposes will be used. It is all about money and traffic.

Originally Posted by ctabuk

So now that a really old post is back on top, it will get crawled. Is it 'New Content' for the bots - or will they recognise it. My guess is that it will be date indexed and ignored. You???

Here is a clear difference between a human being and a SeBOT. A human being can at once see if the new post adds value. Myself, I have made some old posts on WPW that are updated with important and valuable content. So, if I were a BOT, I would index the updated post as fresh content. But I am not a BOT and a BOT is not a human being even if the SE companies use AI to simulate human behaviour.

Here is a typical example:
Posted: July 23 2005
Affiliate link hijacking.

Last answer:
Posted: November 03 2006

[ctabuk]

No it was a PM from a friend who used to Mod there.

Now, this is also interesting.

I'm getting a stack of hits from MSN/Live & Ask
KGun you know how many UK sites are .gov's and google favoured. But just look at a hit I got today

We can't find "council.co.uk"

You can try again by typing the URL in the address bar above.
Or, search the Web:

Go to MSN Search to see complete results for "council.co.uk".

Popular Searches


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You can also visit one of these related Web sites.
Council Tenants Advice Bureau
Liverpool City Council
Cringleford Parish Council


Now, if that is not Link related I don't know what is.

[kgun]

Originally Posted by ctabuk

I'm getting a stack of hits from MSN/Live & Ask
KGun you know how many UK sites are .gov's and google favoured.

My bolding.

Gov's and Google favoured. What is the relationship?

Originally Posted by ctabuk

But just look at a hit I got today

We can't find "council.co.uk"

Very interesting:
MSN: No hits.
Yahoo: 642 hits.
Google 5640 hits.
factbites

Try the other SE's at SurfToolbar

[ctabuk]

I am sort of wandering a little off topic, but Google has always favoured.govs over commercial sites. Whereas Yahoo will favour .govs followed by MIVA listed sites.

[coolguy27]

Nice informations you've got there.. Thanks...