Yahoo merchant and 301 redirect

nipplecharms1 · #1 (**permalink**) 05-26-2006, 07:05 PM

Hi all.

I am looking to move my site to yahoo merchant. Does anyone have any experience with this? I see that my page names may change....

Any way to work 301 redirects within merchant. My "consultant" at yahoo said they did not "think there was an option for that 301 thing at this time"... which scares the begesus out of me.

Can you say SEO meltdown?

I think I may start drinking scotch as I am now immune to vodka....

Thanks in advance for your help.

Michael

frogmanandy · #2 (**permalink**) 05-26-2006, 08:58 PM

You would do the redirects at your old address pointing to the new ... so you shouldn't have to deal with yahoo at all on this

nipplecharms1 · #3 (**permalink**) 05-30-2006, 08:28 PM

I know about the 301's, Its yahoo who said they cannot use them on their merchant platform. I was hoping someone had some experience in this.

Michael

**incrediblehelp** · #4 (**permalink**) 05-31-2006, 03:13 AM

If I am understanding you correctly, you are moving your site TO Yahoo...the 301 redirects would be implemented on your side, not Yahoo.

nipplecharms1 · #5 (**permalink**) 05-31-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

If I am understanding you correctly, you are moving your site TO Yahoo...the 301 redirects would be implemented on your side, not Yahoo.

Yes, I know that. Or, if I am not mistaken and correct me PLEASE if I am, I can do that with the htaccess file?

I want to move my body jewelry site to the yahoo merchant platform. Here is a scenario.

I have a page called nippl3charms.com/body-jewelry.html. That is a landing page for 4 types of jewelry. In Yahoo Merchant, I cannot make a page by that name, or if I can, it’s a 1-product page, say a single body shields. So the new page "section" or landing page is now nippl3charms.com/bodyjewelry-shields-silver.htm.

Now, I have loads of links to nippl3charms.com/body-jewelry.html. When I renamed my pages about 2 years ago, I just added the old and new page names to the htaccess file.

I do not think there is a way to do that with the Yahoo platform. I do not think I can either upload a htaccess file and the only 301 in yahoo is to point one name to another.

Does this make sense?

Or should I leave it where it is and hire someone to do me a real shopping cart? Takers?

Thanks for your help

Michael

**incrediblehelp** · #6 (**permalink**) 05-31-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nipplecharms1

Yes, I know that. Or, if I am not mistaken and correct me PLEASE if I am, I can do that with the htaccess file?

Yes if you are on a Linux box and your hoster will let you. You can call the new pages/URLs whatever you want.

nipplecharms1 · #7 (**permalink**) 05-31-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

Yes if you are on a Linux box and your hoster will let you. You can call the new pages/URLs whatever you want.

I do not know what yahoo uses. What if its a windows platform?

Can you hear my head spliting from there?

Thanks

M

**incrediblehelp** · #8 (**permalink**) 05-31-2006, 10:50 PM

Why do you keep worrying about Yahoo? The 301 redirect is implemented on YOUR SIDE! So you current set up is the one that will direct the visitors/spiders to the new location (YahooMerchant).

nipplecharms1 · #9 (**permalink**) 06-01-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

Why do you keep worrying about Yahoo? The 301 redirect is implemented on YOUR SIDE! So you current set up is the one that will direct the visitors/spiders to the new location (YahooMerchant).

Then I am not making myself clear. I am moving my entire site off my current host and onto Y!Merchant. All the page names I have now... (i.e. ALL.html) are going away.

So, I will close my current hosting company, and at my registar, us the new Y!Merchant DNS settings.

How do I tell google and all the other links I have "out there" that page 123.html is now silver-shields/body-shields/456.html?

Thanks Incredible.

Michael

**incrediblehelp** · #10 (**permalink**) 06-01-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nipplecharms1

How do I tell google and all the other links I have "out there" that page 123.html is now silver-shields/body-shields/456.html?

Easy with a 301 redirect! Please read through mnay other 301 redirect threads on WPW. Test one or two on a couple of pages and then roll out to all. Slowly moving your website over is the best way.

nipplecharms1 · #11 (**permalink**) 06-01-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

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Originally Posted by nipplecharms1

How do I tell google and all the other links I have "out there" that page 123.html is now silver-shields/body-shields/456.html?

Easy with a 301 redirect! Please read through mnay other 301 redirect threads on WPW. Test one or two on a couple of pages and then roll out to all. Slowly moving your website over is the best way.

OK Incredible... you are almost there..... :) :)

Y!Merchant said they do not have the ability to use 301's on their site. I am looking for a work-around, if there is any.

Michael

**incrediblehelp** · #12 (**permalink**) 06-02-2006, 10:34 PM

LOL, I give up buddy. Yahoo is not using the 301 redirects, you are on your old website.

Anyone else care to HELP here?

nipplecharms1 · #13 (**permalink**) 06-02-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

LOL, I give up buddy. Yahoo is not using the 301 redirects, you are on your old website.

Anyone else care to HELP here?

Ok one more try, promise.

Maybe I am asking the wrong freaking question... that has been known to happen.. ask my staff!

I have a page on my site I called nipplecharms.com/thong-g-string-jewelry.html. That page is #1 for the term G string jewelry. Yea, really! :)

I have renamed that page, does not matter why, to nipplecharms.com/body-jewelry-thong-g-string-jewelry.html.

QUESTION-- what do I need to do to make sure that Google et. al. goes to the NEW body-jewelry-thong-g-string-jewelry.html page. If someone clicks in google or some other search engine on the old page link, I want them to land on the new page. Remember, the old page "thong-g-string-jewelry.html" is no longer available.

Also, what does that do to my page rank for the new page?

Ok, if this is still confusing, I promise to go away.

Michael

**incrediblehelp** · #14 (**permalink**) 06-02-2006, 11:16 PM

This is not confusing at all. Please scroll up and read through MANY 301 redirect instructional post on WPW and also search Google for MANY other 301 redirect tutorials. In your htaccess file on your server this command line is showed to make it work:

redirect 301 /thong-g-string-jewelry.html http://www.nipplecharms.com/body-jew...g-jewelry.html

Now I for one say you better have a damn good reason for changing a page name, because their is no guarantee at all that the ranking will move over to the new page.

Like you mentioned you do have a good reason because you are switching over to Yahoo Merchant and the page names/file structure has to change. Just beware that their is no way to guarantee that when this switch is made you will still have the ranking you once had.

nipplecharms1 · #15 (**permalink**) 06-03-2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

In your htaccess file on your server this command line is showed to make it work:

redirect 301 /thong-g-string-jewelry.html http://www.nipplecharms.com/body-jew...g-jewelry.html

Like you mentioned you do have a good reason because you are switching over to Yahoo Merchant and the page names/file structure has to change. Just beware that their is no way to guarantee that when this switch is made you will still have the ranking you once had.

That is the answer I was looking for!!! THANKS!

Now lets assume that I can use the htaccess file on Y!Merchant. They are so particular!

thanks Incredible! And for the PM too.

Michael

**incrediblehelp** · #16 (**permalink**) 06-03-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nipplecharms1

Now lets assume that I can use the htaccess file on Y!Merchant.

You cant. You already said that earlier.

nipplecharms1 · #17 (**permalink**) 06-04-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

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Originally Posted by nipplecharms1

Now lets assume that I can use the htaccess file on Y!Merchant.

You cant. You already said that earlier.

No, Y!M does have a 301 redirect "page" like my current host does (more like a form) . I do not know if Y!M will allow a htaccess file.

my current htaccess file for old pages is something like this....

redirect /anklet.html http://www.nipplecharms.com/ankle.html

and that works. I do not know if I can use this same file set up on Y!Merchant

Thanks IH!

Michael

frogmanandy · #18 (**permalink**) 06-04-2006, 10:20 AM

I am really lost here ... are you now hosting with Yahoo??? ... how do you ftp in this situation? ... if you still host outside yahoo then you can write your own redirects in your own htaccess .. maybe I am missing something ... but I am confused about what you are saying, if you have an address-url you want something redirected to, than navigate to the old page, copy the url, go to your previous host and redirect the old page to the new page in htaccess ... yahoo won't even be aware you did this ... or if they are they shouldn't care