Paid Inclusion

webmasterjunkie · #1 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 08:59 AM

I have a question that I know has been asked dozens of times, but I couldn't find any posts that covered it. I have a site that is doing well in Yahoo! About 90 referrals a month.

My question is should I go ahead and submit my site via Express now that I know Yahoo! likes it, or just go on without it.

adbart · #2 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 09:04 AM

If you're indexed by Yahoo!, then there's no point in re-submitting. It's not going to help you get better rankings.

webmasterjunkie · #3 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by adbart

If you're indexed by Yahoo!, then there's no point in re-submitting. It's not going to help you get better rankings.

I had assumed as much about not getting more, or better, results. Mainly, what would be the benefit now, if any?

adbart · #4 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 09:16 AM

None, in the case of Yahoo.

However this 'Express inclusion' service you're using probably covers lots of search engines and directories as well - it might be worth doing if you're after complete inclusion on the 'net.

To be honest, if you're already indexed by Yahoo, then chances are you will be by Google and MSN Search very soon, if not already.

It's probably not worth it. Concentrate on your keywords and optimising your site instead of wasting money and effort submitting to lots of search engines.

KeithO · #5 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 02:08 PM

submitting doesn't do any thing any more. Spiders have become so sophisticated now that outside maybe submitting when a brand new site on a brand new server with a brand new domain will be the only thing that gets any benefit. IBL's are your best bet towards quick indexing.

cbp · #6 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 04:27 PM

This always happen whenever anyone asks about paid inclusion to Yahoo.

There is the Yahoo Search Index and the Yahoo Directory - both very different beasts.

Yahoo Express (which the original question was about) is for free submission to the Yahoo Directory. I submit every site for this, but expect done to get listed (occasionally one does) - I also use the paid option for the Directory, when strategically indicated.

That is different to free submission to the search index (a waste of time) or paid for inclusion in the search index (only worth it in certain limited circumstances)

CBP

cbp · #7 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 04:31 PM

LLFitness_Derek · #8 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 04:31 PM

I have had very positive experiences paying yahoo to get included in their directory. I only have one complaint... I pay $299 a year and the editor mispells a word in my description for Pool-Tables-Cues:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=poo...gle=1&ei=UTF-8

cbp · #9 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 04:33 PM

duh - dupe post

**brian.mark** · #10 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 06:06 PM

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...experiences paying yahoo to get included in their directory. I only have one complaint... I pay $299 a year and the editor mispells a word...

Paid inclusion is not the same as the Y! directory. For those who aren't totally aware of this, here goes:

Y! Directory is a $299 annual fee (for most categories now) to have a human being look at your site and determine if it warrants a link or not.

Yahoo Paid Inclusion is a service that makes their bot go wild on your website (re-crawls aggressively every 48 hours), then they place those results in their standard SERPs and give it a CPC treatment.

As for the value, if you're trying to check what changes do to your ranking, this helps a lot. Just give it a low daily spend and see where you rank every other day based upon the changes you make. If you're happy where you're at and it doesn't fluctuate much, don't bother.

Brian.

adbart · #11 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cbp

How long do you spend fishing out links?!!

cbp · #12 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 06:55 PM

I have them bookmarked, as this question comes up a lot.

CBP

webmasterjunkie · #13 (**permalink**) 04-14-2005, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbp

This always happen whenever anyone asks about paid inclusion to Yahoo.

There is the Yahoo Search Index and the Yahoo Directory - both very different beasts.

Yahoo Express (which the original question was about) is for free submission to the Yahoo Directory. I submit every site for this, but expect done to get listed (occasionally one does) - I also use the paid option for the Directory, when strategically indicated.

That is different to free submission to the search index (a waste of time) or paid for inclusion in the search index (only worth it in certain limited circumstances)

CBP

You got my question answered, I almost gave up on this post. One h*$#l of a moderators to dig out all of those threads.