Problem positioning in Yahoo but top in Google!

digiappz · #1 (**permalink**) 11-18-2004, 10:01 AM

Hi,
My site www.digiappz.com shows up at the number 2 position in Google for keywords "room booking" but don't even comes up in yahoo's results. I never really done any kind of search engine optimization for that website so it's really good that we managed position #2 in Google but Yahoo doesn't seem to like it.
Could you tell me what problem my site has with Yahoo?
Thank you all for your replies.

Francois

bhartzer · #2 (**permalink**) 11-18-2004, 02:16 PM

Google likes on-topic links and Yahoo! likes a combination of on-page factors and links. So, I would suspect that you probably would want to do some basic on-page optimization of your pages.

justsold · #3 (**permalink**) 11-18-2004, 06:34 PM

Be thankful you show up in Google. Until last week I was number 1 for my main keyword "Las Vegas real estate" (for the past two years I have not dropped below number 3 for that term) then all of a sudden I plummeted to number 16 and a bunch of my other keywords are lost in the 70s and 80s. Nothing different on my site. I still have my Yahoo rank but Google is still where it's at right now! If anyone has any ideas there I would be very grateful.

fstfrd64 · #4 (**permalink**) 11-18-2004, 06:44 PM

My site www.fastfreds.com I get most of my search engine traffic from google but I get 69% of my traffic from google; 19% from yahoo and 12% from msn. Are these numbers similar to those of other sites? Could my site be better optimized for the other engines?

kjohnson5576 · #5 (**permalink**) 11-18-2004, 06:49 PM

As far as I can, or can't tell, it's just yahoo. Yahoo doesn't even recognize my domain ever since the google/yahoo split last year. Their overture division will take my money no matter what, but Yahoo itself doesn't seem to want me.

MHenscheid · #6 (**permalink**) 11-18-2004, 07:15 PM

Here is the search engine traffic for my site:

1)Google: 54%
2)Yahoo: 17%
3)MSN: 16%
4)Google Canada (weird...): 3%

RonW · #7 (**permalink**) 11-18-2004, 08:10 PM

Sincerely and respectfully - don't mess with a good thing.

I'd only tweak pages that Google has NOT indexed in my quest for better Yahoo ranking or indexing.
Experiment in this manner.

quark · #8 (**permalink**) 11-18-2004, 09:00 PM

you are lucky to be in google at all as your use of the phrase in your copy is vertually non existant. meta tags do not count. copy is king and your source code needs a face lift.

DrTandem1 · #9 (**permalink**) 11-18-2004, 10:30 PM

You are experiencing the fact that Google loves page titles and matching anchor text in inbound links. Yahoo likes spammy pages. There are other factors. Yahoo is more of the "slut" of the big search engines while Google is more of a high-priced call girl.

Not that you can't be high in both, but starting out, Yahoo loves the spam. Optimizing for Yahoo could kill you in Google for that very reason. So, don't optimize, socialize. Focus on the visitors, not the search engines.

2slick · #10 (**permalink**) 11-18-2004, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrTandem1

Yahoo is more of the "slut" of the big search engines while Google is more of a high-priced call girl.

Can you comment on other b_i_t_c_h_y search engines ?

lol ;)

phatboy · #11 (**permalink**) 11-19-2004, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digiappz

Hi,
My site www.digiappz.com shows up at the number 2 position in Google for keywords "room booking" but don't even comes up in yahoo's results. I never really done any kind of search engine optimization for that website so it's really good that we managed position #2 in Google but Yahoo doesn't seem to like it.
Could you tell me what problem my site has with Yahoo?
Thank you all for your replies.

Francois

I was in the top five for the term Hawaiian shirts on both google and yahoo for years. Google dumped me for some reason but I am hanging in there on yahoo. I had over 6 thousand links to my site. WWW.alohaland.com My site is totally Hawaiian shirts yet not on google for that search term.

tr3nt · #12 (**permalink**) 11-19-2004, 01:47 AM

One of my sites was recently added to the Yahoo! Directory ($299). Before being listed in the directory the positioning of this site in Yahoo was not good -- almost non-existant. Now I am on the first page for most of my key search terms.

There was some discussions on webproworld a while back about the benefits of being in the Yahoo! Directory. Some said it was worth it and others felt it was worthless. I feel like it has already paid off for me.

Here's the link:
https://ecom.yahoo.com/dir/express/intro/

jok · #13 (**permalink**) 11-19-2004, 07:04 AM

Yahoo pays a lot of attention to the content side of the page, whereas Google links strong and keyword rich BL

daemon61 · #14 (**permalink**) 11-19-2004, 08:53 AM

Im trying to get in top ten in yahoo for almost six months now. Ive been stuck on #23, but recently Iam on #7. From all things Ive done on that site, only the recent changes gave me this positioning, and that was restructuring of meta tags - title and description. Now, I think those are most important for yahoo, but also these things help - size of index page < 100Kb and keyword density. After these changes, my ranking in google fell for few places, but after 4 or 5 days it went on #3 (before it was around #5-#6). Hope this helps, and good luck!

AuctionHugh · #15 (**permalink**) 11-19-2004, 10:22 PM

Its so funny. We're #2 on yahoo for "kalamazoo web design" and number 150 or something on google, even with a PR5! Sigh.

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andre_gwynt · #16 (**permalink**) 11-20-2004, 01:26 PM

I am number 3 on both Yahoo and Google with the keyword windowseat but only spelled together. On all the other kewords almost all my visitors come from Google. Almost none from the others.

phantomcat · #17 (**permalink**) 11-22-2004, 01:31 AM

I've been quite the reverse as I have (usually) held #1 on Yahoo and MSN for over a year but have been non-existant on Google. Yahoo has been goofy lately, bouncing me from #1 to #55 and back, sometimes three times in a single day. Google doesn't seem to like link farms while Yahoo likes spammy, meta crazy sites with enough graphics to spam the metas. By the way, I have relatively few incoming links.
Terrie

Nirav_Thakker2003 · #18 (**permalink**) 11-22-2004, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daemon61

Im trying to get in top ten in yahoo for almost six months now. Ive been stuck on #23, but recently Iam on #7. From all things Ive done on that site, only the recent changes gave me this positioning, and that was restructuring of meta tags - title and description. Now, I think those are most important for yahoo, but also these things help - size of index page < 100Kb and keyword density. After these changes, my ranking in google fell for few places, but after 4 or 5 days it went on #3 (before it was around #5-#6). Hope this helps, and good luck!

Thanks for your quate.

I think your opinion is help for me.

Jayms · #19 (**permalink**) 11-22-2004, 06:42 PM

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By the way, I have relatively few incoming links.

That the problem phantomcat. Get a few incoming links with anchor text with good keywords and that will make all the difference in the world. Google and Yahoo are very different that way.

Jade456 · #20 (**permalink**) 11-26-2004, 06:13 AM

My site bounces back and forth between 1 and 2 on google but is nowhere to be found on Yahoo. I have to agree, Yahoo like spammy sites.

Mac 5 · #21 (**permalink**) 12-13-2004, 10:23 AM

So far this month.

Google- 32.2 %
Yahoo- 26 %
MSN- 19 %
Google (Images) 9.1 %
AltaVista 6.8 %
Ask Jeeves 6.8 %

In past months Google and Yahoo have been about tied.

VegasMack · #22 (**permalink**) 05-08-2007, 07:08 PM

In doing research on a recent problem with real estate sites ranking in Yahoo I came across this thread.

I do know that Yahoo frowns on sites with home page out bound links and I am sure that is the issue with at least one of the RE sites that posted.

While I don’t think that it was an issue at the time this thread was initiated, Yahoo penalized all Advanced Access RE sites last year and apparently Google has recently begun the same.

Hope that helps.

~VegasMack