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I dislike the changes. poorly implemented.
Bad enough to make me post this message and log off cranky. You overdone the stupidity this time, I got lost trying to find the last post on a thread I was following. send me an email when the site works properly.
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<<<< that thing is a pain in the neck on a small screen and makes this whole forum slow, 2 thumbs down.
Edit: Would be nice if Preview post worked as well. |
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Nope, not for me it doesn't and another poster in a thread I was participating in commented on it not working for them.
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I'm with Tubby on this one.. On every level this sucks and makes the site hard to read or use.. I can't image how people on low res monitors are using the site..
It's one thing to try to promote click thrus and advertising, it's another to turn the site into hard to use MFA site..
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Once again, Function is subordinated to Form. Whoever came up with the new design should be hung, drawn and quartered.
1) Taking up a full third of the screen with non-essentials is just plain stupid. 2) Placing said non-essentials in the left rail, rather than the right one, disrupts the the natural scanning performed by the eye-brain function when reading the posts of the thread. 3) For some threads, only a portion is viewable with IE6. I've had to use FF3 to be able to view them in their entirety. 4) Post editing function accepts format changes, such as bolding, but fails to effect them. 5) Various functions is green bars at/near top do not consistently work.
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Item 4 occurred on FF3; not tried on IE6.
Item 5 occurred on both IE6 & FF3.
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I've also just now observed a new problem under IE6. Some threads fail to show the "Post Reply" button and the Navigation Links at the bottom of the thread, and lack the Horizontal Scroll Bar as well.
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Yet another problem under IE6; the "Quick Reply" Message box is sometimes missing from bottom of thread.
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Those related to thread truncation & missing elements appear to be thread dependent & persistent.
Re. flaky functions, insufficient data to say just yet.
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Presumably you meant to format, such as
"Two things I dislike: 1) one line posts; and, 2) this new layout." so as to avoid a one line post.
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Excellent! The one I can fix, the other, well...
The only really irritating thing about it (layout) is as someone has already pointed out, the left side panel is a complete intrusion. I'd trade even a quarter inch for an equal amount of white space in the right margin. At least then we know where the edge of the page is. This horizontal scrolling is a real pain without some sort of reference. Anything else I probably won't notice after that. |
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Finally, a thread discussing these issues. Wige and CrankyDave, if you guys have anything to do with FIXING all of these problems, please see the posts here starting with #16 New Canonical Tag from the big 3 . Also be sure and see post #22 on that page referencing a really bad problem on another thread. (Again, like I said in the post, you must look at that other thread in both IE and FF to see all the posts).
Anti-malware programs have nothing to do with the problems. It's obviously this new layout causing them. Who's the "webmaster" that decided all this would be a good idea?
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I noted a JS error I found on the other thread that may be causing at least the left margin problem, "Deepsand" seems to agree.
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Here's another odd thing similar to what I described in post #22 here. Look at your original post #27 New Canonical Tag from the big 3 Where do you see "Yep, that's the ugly bugger."???? So why does that line show up in my quote #28 of your post New Canonical Tag from the big 3 ????
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When I had completed and posted, I noticed that you had an new, and now intervening post, that at New Canonical Tag from the big 3 , such that my referrence to "the ugly bugger" was no longer in the desired context; i.e., the "ugly bugger" was no longer mentioned in the immediately preceding post, but now the one above that. Then trying to cope with a massive headache caused by a pinched nerve in my neck, rather than edit my post to explicitly incorporate your appropriate post, I simply deleted the line referring to the "ugly bugger." Thus, at the time you replied with such being quoted, that phrase was present; but, a very short time later, it had been removed. Hope this makes sense to you; I'm still dealing with this damned headache.
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I, on the other hand, am using 1024 x 768, so that the content for the ad panel is being downloaded, but then nulled out. The lease that they should do, so as to improve download times for those using the lower resolutions, is to call the screen width detection function prior to downloading the ad panel content, so that such downloads are bypassed for lower screen resolutions. As for currently prevailing resolutions used, a quick look at some GA stats shows that approx. 26% of visitors are using a width of 1152 or greater, with a plurality of 34% using 1024 x 768. Of course, these data are site dependent.
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im gonna jump on the bandwagon here, hadnt been on the site in a few weeks and initially thought there was a problem with my browser, to my dismay it turned out to be the site,im pretty disappointed to be honest and will make a point of not clicking on the ads where as in the past i made a point to do just that
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That exact same thing has been happening to me. A few days ago the left side of my lips, tongue, and mouth all down my throat went numb! It gets worse if I tilt my head a lot. I've had a herniated disk in my neck for decades and apparently it's getting worse, although I have symptoms of a chiara malformation too. There's even a lump just to right of my spine. Sitting in front of monitor 12 hrs a day doesn't help. Thankfully there's no bad pain like I have in my lower back where I have more than one herniated disk.
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Could be my KIS7 is blocking them, but when I disable it, the pages still look the same. It could also be an entry in my Hosts file that's blocking them. Either way; ads or open space, they're both equally annoying since the end result is the same massive problematic left area of the webpages.Quote:
Where is this site's webmaster during all this discussion?
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The cervical problem started about 5-6 yrs. ago; and, until recently, affected only points south, i.e., lower neck, right shoulder, arm & hand. Suddenly, about 6 weeks ago, it redirected its effects upwards. Although I didn't recognize the cause at first, I now know the source of the odd pains on the right side of my throat and upper mouth. While the back pains have, at times, been quite debilitating, I find the neck problem more intrusive, as it's interrupting my sleep 3-5 times per night, whereas with the back, I was generally able to find a position that allowed to fall asleep and remain so. You're quite right re. staring at a monitor. to make matters worse, I'm presently away from home & office, using a machine with the monitor sitting on the shelf of a hutch type desk, such that I'm forced to look upward, which only serves to exacerbate the situation. Well, it's time to sign off for now, and face another night of trying to get some desperately needed sleep. If I never return, you'll know that I died of sleep deprivation. May the Future Be Kind.
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Currently I'm using 1024x600, but I also use 1680x1050 and 1920x1200, the new layout sucks on all.
Half the problem is the ad server is so slow for me. Still can't preview a post, most annoying that especially on a long post. |
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Okay, time for one more quick post before trying for sleep.
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As to why it's blank, I cannot say without further research. However, given the large number of items downloaded from different hosts, it's highly doubtful that your HOSTS file is here in play. Quote:
As I noted, said data are site dependent; and, in this case, the sample was quite small. As the data you refer to are based on a much larger sample, and, across a wider demographic base than are the users of the 3 sites sampled, it's no surprise that different results ensue. As far as I can tell, it's up to the Admins. and Mods. to act as intermediaries between us and the techies.
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It's not just the ad servers, but google-analytics.com as well.
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Normally I notice analytics slowing sites, but for me the ads take so long they dominate.
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The reasons I had to get out of the 8-5 workforce was because of my back and neck. My lumbar herniations have caused severe sciatica totally debilitating me at times with unimaginable pain (for most, but I'm sure you know what it's like). The best thing I've found that works for me, is DLPA, aka DL-Phenylalanine. It's an amino acid you must take on an empty stomach. It takes anywhere from 2 weeks to more than month in some cases to work. Once it starts working, many can usually stop taking it daily and maybe take it 3 times a week, or less in some cases. It's effect, a fantastic pain killer. Amino Acid Supplements: DL-PHENYLALANINE 500 mg. Researchers claim its pain-killing effect equals that of morphine. It is ONLY for chronic pain. It will not change the way you feel acute pain, although I have seen some sales claims to that. It works by the body converting it into the neurotransmitters noradrenaline and dopamine, which affects endorphins (which as you probably know regulate and control the transmission of perceived pain). Unfortunately, I had to stop taking it years ago due to heart problems. It can make arrhythmia and palpitations worse. It can also raise your BP. So if those are not problems you have, you must look into taking it, but be sure you check out all of its potential contraindications first. Other things that can help are Marine Lipids (EPA & DHA), Omega 3 & 9 fatty acids, all of which are natural anti-inflammatories (and also great for heart health and the lowering of C-reactive protein). The herb Devil's Claw, along with copper, has also been shown to help pain associated with disk herniations. All of these except for copper, have a blood-thinning effect so you have to be careful taking them if you're on a blood thinner like Warfarin or Heparin, etc., and should have your blood coagulation factor regularly monitored when taking them. You should not take copper if Wilson's Disease runs in your family, or of course if you're prone to high cu levels. Folic acid has been shown to help with pain, but it should not be taken alone, it should be taken with the rest of the B-Complex family supplement because only taking one B vitamin can result in deficiencies of the others.
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It could be my Hosts file, it's been highly modified by not only SpyBot, but Hostsman as well that adds many thousands of entries. Ads at many sites are blocked and I usually see a "Navigation canceled" area instead of the ads. But here, I see nothing but blue space below the "Submit your site" for the Jayde Submission.
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The "Quick Reply" area is gone again for me on IE6, and I just used it moments earlier!
"Preview Post" also doesn't work for me, the button is there but nothing happens when I click it. "_gat is undefined" is the JS error I'm seeing in IE6. Looks like that has something to do with Urchin.
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After making that last post above, now the Edit button and all the other buttons are gone!
No "Edit", "Quote", no "Reply", nothing. Also the quote is missing! All that's there in IE is "Quote:" and no text! But the quote text shows in FF.I'm curious if anyone is working on these problems. "Bueller?.....Bueller?".
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More strangeness. Now I'm having to use FF because my last post is not showing in IE again! It appears now this thread has the same problem I mentioned in an earlier post. In IE the post count ends at #37, but the 37th post is not numbered, only #37 is numbered.
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I've tested the forum with default settings in IE6, IE7, Firefox 2, Firefox 3, Opera, Safari, and Chrome, across windows, linux, OS X and can't replicate any of the issues you all have been recently saying with the exception of some post causing side scrolling. I'm currently working on changing how wide quotes are allowed to go, and reducing the size of images.
I will admit the column is in the way, but there's not much that can be done with that. It's where we were told to put it. I also find it odd that even though none of the forum code was changed except the template shell to add a column, all of a sudden these issues appeared. Is it possible that you have a some sort of script/ad blocker running? |
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You might want to give users the option to turn off the left column and/or hide it automatically for low resolution monitors.
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Hmm.
for me to read the last two posts in this thread. I click 'reply with quote' on the last visible post. This brings up, the box where I can submit the reply. I simply scroll down to read the last posts. This is not overly difficult. but reloading the page does take my computer around 41 seconds. I made a mistake, . . I kept clear of this crap, I returned when I was told the video hassle on the left side disappears (after a delay) Someone was obviously pulling my leg . . I have no script blocker. WPW is pushing me out. . . O.K. I can live with that. 42 seconds was far to long for me to wait for a page refresh anyway. It may not be your fault my connection is not fast. . . But you just lost me... Tubby
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I just checked IE7 and as with Firefox 3 clicking Preview Post just reloads the post page but with no preview. There's no script blockers or anything running on any of the machines I've tested it from. The lack of Preview Post has been going on long before the left block was added. |
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Most of us know that not many people click on the ads in a forum and you want more clicks, but... I don't like the new design, I don't like it at all.
And I see here that I am not alone. For us, please kill this left column. Jean-Luc |
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Firstly, during the period prior to the "screen width detect" function having been added, when I was able to see the left pane, very much of it was blank, suggesting that there were not then enough ads sufficient for completely filling it. As for SpyBot S&D, it only blocks what are deemed to be "malicious" URLs. And, during the period when I could see the left pane, there was no evidence of SS&D suppressing any content. However, given that you are actually seeing some content in the left pane, the odds are that anything that is missing is indeed being block by an ad suppression or similar application on your machine.
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When things that worked suddenly stop working, the first thing to look at is "what was last changed?" In this case, it is the insertion of the left pane.
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They should have put such function up front, so that those with screen widths less than 1152 don't have to wait for content that isn't to be displayed isn't downloaded. Even with high speed cable, the download times have become outrageous.
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As is, much time is wasted downloading content that will eventually be suppressed. Even with high speed cable, the download time has become intolerable.
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At the moment, there is only enough to fill down into the area to the left of Post # 7; below that it's blank, with a light blue background.
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