This was first posted on the forum taking one thread off topic. Then later sent to me in an email. I want to reply to it but will do so in my text post so that I don't make this post so long that it is hard to read.

WPW mod. would call that link dropping but if no links are dropped I have no idea how it could be link dropping.

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Well we had hoped to keep this out of the forum, but it was I that posted it - I have no time for experienced posters that attempt to use forum members as guinea pigs for their own site traffic.

If you guys are happy to have Janeth do it, then fine. I'll just let her get on with it.

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It seems that ctabuk just does not understand the whole concept of keeping a thread on topic. He posted this in one thread and then removed it because crankydave asked him to.

Thanks Dave.

But then he sent me this email:

First off we need to understand that unless there is a link in a post it is not link dropping.

I’ve often used social media sites to drive traffic to my websites. At one time I use to get over 2,000 unique visitors per day just from forums. But I do it by making good post and using my signature tags to do it. Not from linking back to my own site. It’s the reason most forums let you post signature tags. It is a kind of pay back for being a part of their community. WPW and other forums should be proud of the fact that their forums can deliver so great numbers.

Link dropping would be dropping links in the post back to one of my sites. Can you show me the links that I am dropping?

And why would a forum moderator continue to take a topic off topic and why would he set out to try and make personal attacks? Even going so far as to go in search of a reason to make an attack.

It seems to me that if WPW wants to keep their forums on topic the first step would be in getting rid of mods. Who lack the common sense not to take threads, they are not even participating in, off topic.

And if making good post with the hope of driving some relevant traffic back to our sites is wrong then I am sure I am not the only one in the wrong.

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Not true at all. Read your own email to me. It says that you first posted it in the forum and then removed it because crankydave asked you too.

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Actually CD never did ask me to remove it - he just did not want this to escalate.

Yes - I went looking - you are correct. So carry on, let's see where it takes us.

You think that it is a good idea to openly state in one forum that some SEO's may view your antics as blackhat and then go on to use them in WPW?

And you do not think that making consequential multiple posts is link dropping even when you say that that was the main objective?

Cool, that makes a tremendous amount of sense.

Carry on.

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What articles. My articles are not black hat although some people might call some of my methods blackhat but Google views anything you do to your site as blackhat.
What in the world are you talking about?

I never said I was going to any forum to link drop. I am not link dropping.

Please try to understand this.

THE POST WOULD NEED A LINK IN IT TO BE LINK DROPPING.
THE POST WOULD NEED A LINK IN IT TO BE LINK DROPPING.
THE POST WOULD NEED A LINK IN IT TO BE LINK DROPPING.
THE POST WOULD NEED A LINK IN IT TO BE LINK DROPPING.
THE POST WOULD NEED A LINK IN IT TO BE LINK DROPPING.
THE POST WOULD NEED A LINK IN IT TO BE LINK DROPPING.

Not sure that will help you but there it is.

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That was a little bit hard for Janeth - she's getting confused between what she wrote in geeksonsteroids and here -
so to refresh the memory

'If I find a way to make my sites rank and keep them relevant to the visitor, I'll do it. Some people would call the methods I am about to use blackhat but I've seen more sites get banned that claim they've done nothing wrong than sites doing what I'm about to talk about. As a matter of fact I have yet to see one site get banned using the techniques I am about to show you.

Everything I talk about here I would consider white hat but search engine optimizers might call them blackhat.'


Now that Janeth was what you wrote over in geeks and what you did next was to come to WPW and try and get some traffic from our posters.

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Now if you look slowly underneath you will see some words in blue - they are called signature links and that is what you came here to drop. Now I could remove them for you if you want.

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Not at all what I did next was build a site and start trying to market it. I've written article bought a domian name and set up hosting.

The thread was also moved to a private area where it is still going. The thread is about getting traffic to a website. Forums are a good source of traffic. But I do not drop links.

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Are you so stupid that you honestly think that if I post twice in response to a post that I am doing it so a member will visit my site two times instead of once.

And I would hope that would not give a mod. as stupid as you the ability to remove sig. links.

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You know, of all the people that drop links to their own sites in posts on this site, I'm sort of surprised that you chose Janeth as the one to attack..

You mean like your sig?? My sig?? Almost everyone's sig?? I suppose your stance would have more weight to it if you didn't have links in your posts as well..

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We all know that there are MAJOR problems with signature spammers on forums and mod's have a right to call any member on it when they feel that it becomes blatant.

In fact inaction on this matter devalues forums so I am for smashing signature spamming in any form it comes in, not accusing you of this Janeth because I have not been watching the situation.

I am simply making a statement that signature spammers are a cancer on the entire forum circuit, many are using forums for SEO and that is link dropping, in addition many of these spammers are getting reported to Google now days.

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I doubt that Google would be monitoring forums for the misuse of the forum signature.

My forum signature is no different than anyone else and if you want to monitor what I did the thread is here Articles are not duplicate content

All I did was quote someone and respond to their post and quote someone else and respond to their post.

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Well this is certainly going to bring the forums count tally up - every cloud

I'll just let you guys debate this. Did Janeth do the right thing in deciding to use WPW as a test bed?

If you say yes - then I will support the majority.

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I've got no reason to use WPW as a test bed. I've been posting on WPW long before you were ever a mod.

And no were did I say that I was doing any type of testing on WPW. You think that by telling lyes (like that you invented RSS feeds) like you constantly do that people will believe you.

I like to think that people are smart enough to read for themselves and come to their own conclusions.

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I have to concur with Janeth. (According to the current stats on WPW, Janeth has to date made 5,770 contributions to this community. And all of her posts, I have seen, provide substantial verbiage to this website.)

I post in forums for the express purpose of gaining new readers and new traffic to my websites. But, I don't just pop into a forum and say, "Hey check out this link." That is link dropping.

If on the other hand, I go into a forum and actually contribute to the thread and to the community, that in most forums is not considered link dropping. I do not consider this practice at all to be blackhat, so long as one is contributing substabce to the community.

The mods original complaint was that Janeth answered each question, one by one, in individual replies.

But given the length of the post she was replying to, it did actually make sense to answer each question one-by-one. The mod felt she should combine the questions from several posters into a single post, but that can be confusing as hell to the reader.

Given the amount of information that was passed back and forth, in this case, it did make sense to answer each person individually.

I am sure that I don't have to explain to the average person that a positive response should never be posted within the same post as a negative response. You do not say "you are wrong and this is why" and then on the end of the post say, "oh by the way, so-and-so, I agree with you and this is why."

Sure that approach can be taken when one is replying to a couple people, but when you are replying to a dozen people, it is foolish to even attempt such a thing.

An aside to this complaint. When Google finds the page in question, they are not going to see two dozen links back to Janeth's website. Instead, they will look at the first of each link to her site on that page, and ignore the rest. So the fact that Janeth has a dozen posts on the same page is not being done for the search engines, period. (p.s. By the mods' own definition of link dropping, he might be guilty of the same, since he is pretending to stay on topic to keep this thread going in new directions.)


For anyone truly interested in this matter, all one needs to do is to follow the original thread and it will become apparently clear that this mod has let his ego override common sense, taking the thread off-topic several times himself.

Additionally, the mod has made claims about his own importance that do not withstand the scrutiny of people who investigate his claims. He apprars to be making such claims to strengthen his off-topic statements, as if his knowledge is greater than our own.

p.p.s. Janeth has more posts at WPW than the mod who is trying to chastise her and prove his own superiority in this forum.

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