The rediculous Rep Point war.

[kgun]

I think if I leave WPW because of this rediculus Rep Point war (now old threads are used in that childish game), somebody on this forum will love it. Finally we succeeded.

What I specifically think of is worst is examplified in this thread:

http://www.webproworld.com/google-di...tml#post371876

I have noted that members that agree that there is no negative effect of IBL's instantly get a red rep point. Personally I neutralizes that red point. Then if I give one member a green rep point it is instantly neutralized with oner or more red.

Life is too short to involve in this rediculous game any longer.

Have a nice day. It took me some minutes to write this thread.

IMO it is not longer most important what you write, but ...

This thread is a new candidate ...

PS: I don't think my (your) outbound (inbound) links hurt (you)

[crankydave]

What I specifically think of is worst is examplified in this thread:

http://www.webproworld.com/google-di...tml#post371876

I have noted that members that agree that there is no negative effect of IBL's instantly get a red rep point. Personally I neutralizes that red point. Then if I give one member a green rep point it is instantly neutralized with oner or more red.

hmmmm....

kgun... You can only "see" your own rep., what kind, and comments. You can only "see" the pixels that are displayed for other members.

You cannot "see" who gives rep to whom and what kind and for what reason. So you cannot know who was given rep, what kind, from whom, and for what reason. That is unless you are being told this is the case.

Which is it? Guessing, yet again, or something else?

Dave

ETA... Just saw this post or I would have replied before now.

[Tubby]

I never thought of it as a war. . game? maybe. . But if it is a war. . you must be involved Kgun

Because a quick look in the "members' section - supplies us with information on who has accumulated most pr - in order from the highest - to lowest.
(1) mike
(2) crankydave
(3) wige
(4) incrediblehelp
(5) Feydakin
(6) Tubby
(7) Dubbya
( janeth
(9) kgun
Showing results 1 to 30 of 7728

Maybe Kgun you should look at this result and consider it as a
"manipulative ability score" To be a successful webmaster one needs skills in manipulating - manipulating google results for example, SEO's manipulate to get the results they want.

Red is just a colour Kgun - It is the colour of blood - WPW needs a spot of blood here and there - Just to lift our pulse rates to over 55 for a few minutes per week....

[stalkinghorse]

Food for thought

1) Why do so many who disagreed with Feydakin and williamc now have red reps?

2) Why have so many whose rep recently went red had their profiles visited by crankydave and williamc?

3) How did the reps of Feydakin and williamc suddenly rise so very rapidly after their detractors began repeatedly receiving gratuitous red rep?

4) Why is such juvenile behavior tolerated?

5) Why are the ToS not enforced with respect to ethier Overall community Attitude or Inappropriate Behavior, particalurly as regards "DO NOT Make Inappropriate or Offensive Posts - including threats, harrassment, swearing, prejudice, slander or deliberate insults/name-calling, or other negative remarks about WebProWorld, its moderators and administrators, iEntry, or your fellow members. Even if this is just your own personal opinion, RESPECT YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS."

Inquiring minds want to know.

[Toni Anicic]

I don't know why this reputation thing is such a big deal to some of you guys. Most of the people here probably don't even know it exists and how to use it.

It is also not a reliable indicator of someone's expertise. The one that comments a lot on let's say review threads and says good words about everyone's website will probably accumulate a lot more reputation points then someone who posts rarely but has posts of higher value, relevance and quality. This is just one example.

I've seen communities who dealt with reputation problems in one of these ways:

1. All reputation points are first edited (approved or disapproved by admins/moderators) before effecting one's reputation - every reputation point needs to have a valid description
2. Users with less then XYZ posts can't award reputation points.
3. Only users approved by moderators / administrators can award reputation points.

[stalkinghorse]

You can only "see" your own rep., what kind, and comments. You can only "see" the pixels that are displayed for other members.

You cannot "see" who gives rep to whom and what kind and for what reason. So you cannot know who was given rep, what kind, from whom, and for what reason. That is unless you are being told this is the case.

Which is it? Guessing, yet again, or something else?

Do you really believe that there is no more physical evidence than ones own rep points and the public rep rank of others to be had?

Why is that which is so obvious to others hidden from you?

[stalkinghorse]

I don't know why this reputation thing is such a big deal to some of you guys. Most of the people here probably don't even know it exists and how to use it.

Most people are unaware of or affected by the many abuses that occur around them. Does that mean that such abuses are justifiably ignored?

[stalkinghorse]

Red is just a colour

Well, then, how about reversing the usage of green and red here.

Or, instead of red, use thumbs-up; for green, thumbs down.

After all, they're "just pixels."

[Tubby]

stalkinghorse Asks

"1) Why do so many who disagreed with Feydakin and williamc now have red reps?" - Probably because they never had enough green reps to cover the red ones (that is a very flippant answer because I have no clue about this question)

"2) Why have so many whose rep recently went red had their profiles visited by crankydave and williamc?" I know Crankdave will take a look at newer members that have gone red as part of his duties. (I think he mentioned this in a post somewhere) Cranky is pretty fair minded and he likes to keep a fatherly eye open.
Sometimes, as in your case stalking horse I scroll cut and past a user name to paste a quote in a thread, sometimes this accidentally triggers the link and I pay an accidental visit. I should really use the system provided, but my eyesight is not great and I sometimes highlight things for myself rather than the reader.
Willamc can look and go where he pleases - (surely that is right, without anyone planting some sort of 'bad intent" label on this innocent action) Viewing a profile is has to be innocent action, everyone has viewed a profile...

"3) How did the reps of Feydakin and williamc suddenly rise so very rapidly after their detractors began repeatedly receiving gratuitous red rep?" I have never been able to get any clue where other members place their rep - or who gives it to them . . so this question is beyond my knowledge. I have given both the mentioned members good rep. I like them, they definitely add to my knowledge and user experience here at WPW,


"4) Why is such juvenile behavior tolerated?'
I do not know. . I know I get my good share of red rep ( I got one today for being "mean spirited") I got a couple for the same post - I think the red rep was fair comment, *Chuckle* - But to be honest red rep or green rep is not a lot more than another topic to me. I do like to see it. . But I will not suffer irreparable despair if WPW members whittle it away with red.
as for acting Juvenile - Well in myself I can find at least 10% child - you can expect a 1 in ten juvenile post from me. But occasionally, I hit the right button (I work on a percentage basis)


Truth is I get more upset about not being able to preview my post before sending it. .(that is very frustrating)

[stalkinghorse]

stalkinghorse Asks

"1) Why do so many who disagreed with Feydakin and williamc now have red reps?" - Probably because they never had enough green reps to cover the red ones

So, sheer coincidence?

"2) Why have so many whose rep recently went red had their profiles visited by crankydave and williamc?" I know Crankdave will take a look at newer members that have gone red as part of his duties.

Toward what end?

Willamc can look and go where he pleases

Again, sheer coincidence? And, why him alone?

"3) How did the reps of Feydakin and williamc suddenly rise so very rapidly after their detractors began repeatedly receiving gratuitous red rep?" I have never been able to get any clue where other members place their rep - or who gives it to them . . so this question is beyond my knowledge.

Did not you already implicitly answer this by way of your prior mention of manipulation?

"4) Why is such juvenile behavior tolerated?'
I do not know. .

Well, then, do you find such acceptable or not?

I know I get my good share of red rep ( I got one today for being "mean spirited") I got a couple for the same post - I think the red rep was fair comment

And, in addition to being substantive, such was not merely a backdoor anonymous way of taking issue with a position that you'd taken re. a matter of debate, but rather a private rebuke for behavior. That is quite different from the inane & abusive remarks reported by others.

as for acting Juvenile - Well in myself I can find at least 10% child - you can expect a 1 in ten juvenile post from me. But occasionally, I hit the right button

There is a time and place for all things, including nurturing the child within. Using childish actions, such as bullying, as a means of dealing with an inability to persuade another is quite a different thing.