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    Re: The Power of the WebProWorld SEO Community

    Quote Originally Posted by kgun View Post
    I saw there an alternative 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. But doing an HTTP Header check I was getting only the 403. So doesn't look good to me.

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    .htaccess

    order deny,allow
    deny from all

    except white listed IP's in the /Books/ folder ?

    1. Will the white list create problems?
    2. More precisely: Can Bot's get an URI reference or a dangling node (link) via the white list?
    Are the bots also white listed? I don't understand.

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    Re: The Power of the WebProWorld SEO Community

    Quote Originally Posted by Webnauts View Post
    I think I must disagree at sme point. A page that is not indexed can not have PR its self. But the PR coming to the noindex attributed page will flow to the pages linked from it.
    Eric Enge Can a NoIndex page accumulate PageRank?

    Matt Cutts A NoIndex page can accumulate PageRank, because the links are still followed outwards from a NoIndex page.

    Eric Enge So, it can accumulate and pass PageRank.

    Matt Cutts Right, and it will still accumulate PageRank, but it won’t be showing in our Index. So, I wouldn’t make a NoIndex page that itself is a dead end. You can make a NoIndex page that has links to lots of other pages.
    Eric Enge Interviews Google’s Matt Cutts

    Control Flow of Pagerank with robots.txt and NoFollow, NoIndex
    A noindex page can have and accumulate PR.

    Dave

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    Re: The Power of the WebProWorld SEO Community

    Quote Originally Posted by kgun View Post
    Is that possible, research without a theory?
    Kjell, I do base my research on a theory. But once my research starting back in 2006 is completed and been effective, I do not understand what you mean.

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    Re: The Power of the WebProWorld SEO Community

    I mean that you need a theory to do research.

    You can observe reality. You can observe that a stone falls when you drop it, but you need a theory to explain the fall.

    Not a big point so continue this important thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Webnauts View Post
    Are the bots also white listed? I don't understand.
    No. It was wige that indicated that.

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    Re: The Power of the WebProWorld SEO Community

    Quote Originally Posted by crankydave View Post
    A noindex page can have and accumulate PR.

    Dave
    But the PR does not stay on the noindexed page. It passes to other pages through the links of that page. Just to avoid misunderstandings. If you do not agree I have a very simple question.

    I had a page that previously did not have the noindex and it had PR 6. Since I noindexed that page and the toolbar is greyed out. And long enough to tell.

    Does that make sense?

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    Re: The Power of the WebProWorld SEO Community

    Quote Originally Posted by kgun View Post
    I mean that you need a theory to do research.

    You can observe reality. You can observe that a stone falls when you drop it, but you need a theory to explain the fall.

    Not a big point so continue this important thread.
    Excellent! I think the theory is being reveal through our discussion here.

    Quote Originally Posted by kgun View Post
    No. It was wige that indicated that.
    If the bots are white listed and the pages in the protected area have links which may be followed, you do not have dangling/nodes issues.

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    Re: The Power of the WebProWorld SEO Community

    Quote Originally Posted by Webnauts View Post
    But the PR does not stay on the noindexed page. It passes to other pages through the links of that page. Just to avoid misunderstandings. If you do not agree I have a very simple question.

    I had a page that previously did not have the noindex and it had PR 6. Since I noindexed that page and the toolbar is greyed out. And long enough to tell.

    Does that make sense?
    Naturally the toolbar wouldn't show PR. That doesn't mean the PR coming from links "jumps" to pages it links to. The noindex page accumulates PR it's simply not "seen" via the toolbar. A noindex page accumulates and passes PR in the same way an indexed page would.

    ETA... The only way to get the PR to "jump" is to redirect the page.

    Dave

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    Re: The Power of the WebProWorld SEO Community

    Why would anyone believe what Matt Cutts has to say when he is simply a pawn for the largest Propaganda machine that exists today???

    Matt cannot tell the truth on anything related to Google, other than who won a Doodle contest.

    Lastly the nofollow tag is meant to tell Google you do not trust a site that you link to.....

    .why would a webmaster use a nofollow tag when pointing to your own site pages?? That would be saying you do not trust your own site.

    That in and of itself should tell everyone the nofollow tag is simple fodder pushed out by the Propaganda Search Engine....ooops I mean Google...

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    Re: The Power of the WebProWorld SEO Community

    To clarify my points about noindex in my previous post...

    I believe that "noindex" is something of a misnomer. Specifying that a page is noindex does not actually delete everything about the page.

    Lets say you have a source page with five links on it. Further, lets say one of those pages is listed as noindex and disallow in robots.txt. When Google crawls that page, and calculates how much pagerank to assign to each page, it does not consider that one of the pages is listed as noindex/disallow. It simply gives each destination url 1/5 of the source page's pagerank.

    Now, when Google finally resolves the URL for the page that is listed as disallow/noindex, Google does not delete the pagerank for the page. After all, Google has to remember that the URL is blocked so that it will not keep trying to crawl that location. It also doesn't delete pagerank - that pagerank gets used in another calculation. The page is still in the index, it is simply hidden so that it never shows up in a user query - including toolbar.google.com queries and site: and other special searches.
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    Re: The Power of the WebProWorld SEO Community

    Thank you for calling me a highly competent SEO professional Webnauts, you shouldn't have : )

    I have to admit, I probably am the most successful SEO in Canada !!!

    Not America, but yes in Canada...

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