Which browser::: Shopping online?

[johns123]

Few day back i have download the opera for my pc but found some of the sites are not opening completely as compare the Mozilla Firefox. but it is faster than Firefox.

[kgun]

Few day back i have download the opera for my pc but found some of the sites are not opening completely as compare the Mozilla Firefox. but it is faster than Firefox.

Sites or pages?

Not so very interesting comment. I am not specifically interested in all the problems every surfer has with every browser on the planet. It takes time to read and comment, so please ...

[kgun]

I found this Opera: Web Standards Curriculum article today that may be of interest to some members / surfers.

[kgun]

Related post (#52):

http://www.webproworld.com/browsers/...tml#post494411

[kgun]

Was that your final conclusion hopefully after reading the whole thread?

Here iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest ? The Register

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

is the last story dated 25th March 2010 02:45 GMT in a never ending battle. Sometimes small is beautiful and secure

Related links:

http://vreugdenhilresearch.nl/Pwn2Ow...tExplorer8.pdf

[webber]

I just read the thread and found it interesting despite some apparently personal issues in the middle there.

I believe the focus on java that kgun had is a good point. Turns out a lot of users patch their browser ( and a patched browser, be it opera or firefox is relatively secure ) but do not regularly patch their java plugins. ( this should've been a link but I mustn't post links: thegurureview.net/tag/qualys )

Thus, telling people not to use java or to use a browser which focusses on java security may be a good idea when you're shopping, i.e. transferring important data.
A point on the side: open source does not mean a program has fewer security issues. The idea is that they are closed faster ( hopefully ), and that the likelyhood of someone reporting and fixing a security hole fast increases because there are more people looking at the code. Thus, saying an open source program is safer than a closed source program is actually not unfounded, in the past, security through obscurity has only had limited success.

I am more of a web developer, and in my experience, security issues do occur much more likely when you use code that has not been looked at by many people and rigorously tested - which tends to be more likely with code used by many people, thus: open source code has its merits in principle.

However, looking at opera, despite being closed source, they do seem to have a very good reaction time to security issues, i.e. the time between discovery and fix of security issues ( granted you keep your browser up to date ) is actually very good.

I also think that using a different browser for important operations is generally a good idea, I believe I will follow that concept now myself, using opera for shopping/banking, but still using firefox otherwise. It is a little less comfortable but should be a lot more secure.

Btw, small is secure works quite well apparently, look at linux and Macs...

[kgun]

Generally, do you mix Java with JavaScript? Aside from the Java term, I think they have no more in common thant JavaScrip and any other programming language.

A point on the side: open source does not mean a program has fewer security issues. The idea is that they are closed faster ( hopefully ), and that the likelyhood of someone reporting and fixing a security hole fast increases because there are more people looking at the code. Thus, saying an open source program is safer than a closed source program is actually not unfounded, in the past, security through obscurity has only had limited success.

Did you get the impression that security through obscurity is an important issue in this thread? So if you don't tell how you have secured your house, it is security by obscurity?

I also think that using a different browser for important operations is generally a good idea, I believe I will follow that concept now myself, using opera for shopping/banking, but still using firefox otherwise. It is a little less comfortable but should be a lot more secure.

I do that.