Which browser::: Shopping online?

[kgun]

I shall stay on topic. As far as I know Opera is the only webbrowser that has an extra security layer, a master password.

1. Will the master password make the browser more or less secure? You only need to answer yes / no.
2. I can not see that you have made a singel fact of why FireFox is more secure than Opera when you shop online.
3. I have made many for Opera. Reread the thread if you don't find these facts.

[moneymen]

I shall stay on topic. As far as I know Opera is the only webbrowser that has an extra security layer, a master password.

this confirm that u know nothing about it firefox is using master password option since long time ago

1.Of course that master password is an extra security layer but only against FEDS if u are criminal.Has nothing to do with identity theft from browser unless someone is trying to steal your bookmarks which is wont happen in 99% because there is no good use of anyones bookmarks

I can not see that you have made a single fact of why FireFox is more secure than Opera when you shop online.

2.I think that links to posts where security experts from big companies confirm that firefox is better give enough facts inside unless u are blind ?

I have made many for Opera. Reread the thread if you don't find these facts.

3.Please count me those facts excluding those related to javascript since its the only thing u based your post on

[kgun]

this confirm that u know nothing about it firefox is using master password option since long time ago

That was a test to see what you know.

1. How long time ago?
2. Before Opera?

I think that links to posts where security experts from big companies confirm that firefox is better give enough facts inside unless u are blind ?

Here http://www.webproworld.com/internet-...tml#post428167 is a thread that should interest you as a security expert. It also tells a story of how I trust such reports. If you don't take the time to read the whole thread, wait until it redirects to post #40

http://www.webproworld.com/internet-...tml#post428904

... u are blind ?

3.Please count me those facts excluding those related to javascript since its the only thing u based your post on

And you do not refer to the important source about your 2 % statement that I asked for. That should be a more important and relevant source. Especially if it is documented by many independent companies, cross checked.

[Doc]

moneymen, I think you'll find that debates and discussions are much more productive, if you leave your abusive attitude at the door, and discuss the topic, rather than attacking the poster. The only person you will convince with such a caustic attitude is yourself, and it would seem that you're already quite certain of your stance on the topic.

[moneymen]

That was a test to see what you know.

rofl man don't make me laugh more than am already laughing the comments u post

Here http://www.webproworld.com/internet-...tml#post428167 is a thread that should interest you as a security expert. It also tells a story of how I trust such reports. If you don't take the time to read the whole thread, wait until it redirects to post #40

yes FF have more FOUND bugs than opera coz of one simple reason its way to popular and in the leading position in the usage of browsers which makes it attractive for searching bugs.Opera is museum example now used more rarely every day.Also if u check those vulns u will find that 99% of those vulns have and cannot be used for exploiting your identity while shopping online(DDOS.BOF and STACK OVERFLOW,MEMORY CORUPTION)milw0rm - exploits : vulnerabilities : videos : papers : shellcode <<<firefox

Also if u search for opera there u will find less vulns but more dangerous for your identity
Xss -for stealing your cookies
File creation and execution --Which will allow them to run and execute password stealer or any RAT or whatever they want
code execution- allowing to execute pretty simple code that will grab everything and store it where ever they want

And you do not refer to the important source about your 2 % statement that I asked for. That should be a more important and relevant source. Especially if it is documented by many independent companies, cross checked.

and again u didn't mentioned any facts from your post excluding javascipt so it proves my point that your whole security post is based on javascript disabling


P.S.

R.I.P. to stroke

[kgun]

I wish you good luck and advise you to continue here: http://www.webproworld.com/submit-yo...tml#post475654

Please, don't market yourself as a security expert: http://www.webproworld.com/introduct...tml#post475657

Very much is awaited of a security expert. That is the main reason for my arrogant tone. You should understand that.

[moneymen]

Thanks for the invite i watch that post like i said am SEO noob and not pretending to be expert there when am not

Man i don't care about your arrogant tone i got used to fight with people that are more experienced than any of us when i know am right so it doesn't bother me much


And i am security expert mostly for web related things pentesting and protection things

worked long time for the companies but got sick of the thing that i get only small % of the deal and i do the work fully

So now i started as freelancer

At least now i know if do some pentesting or securing job i get the money i asked and not some % that company will give me just because they have website and customer contacted them to find someone to do the work

u know what i mean.Now am my own boss and in what i do pentesting and protecting am one of the best regardless of do u think its true or not

of course again respect to people like str0ke that spent a life dealing with security
to bad i didn't had time to meet him

[kgun]

And i am security expert mostly for web related things pentesting and protection things.

Yes you signed up as a security expert, and you started by commenting on my thread. As I told you, I don't regard myself as a security expert, and I am suere if sombody from Opera had participated in this thread, I would soon be identified as an amateur. It was not without reason I asked you about, encapsulation, private and protected class members and class friend functions that you have still not answered. I have talked to person's from the Simula (see the last link in my signature for more information) miljeu and feel like an amateur when talking It with them. C++, one of the better languages, allows frined functions that break the principle of encapsulation since you get access to another classes private data through a friend function. As far as I remember that was considered bad object oriented programming from the Simulat people like goto statements in code. In short what we call spagetthi programming. So you market yourself as an "expert mostly for web related things" without being able to say a word about Opera's security model versus FireFox model that we know are previlge based.


Are you surprised that you got a reaction in the way:

1. you signed up
2. and your first post about Opera?

If you want to compare the security risks in JavaScript and PHP versus C / C++ you are invited to read the C++Builder 2010 PDF document that you can download from the last link in my signature.

[johns123]

Last three years i were using Firefox, but as you recommended i will try the opera at least on time thanks for your suggestions.

[kgun]

1. Hopefully you have read the whole thread and noted that I use FF and Opera, FF with plugins (that for obvious resons make the browser less secure) for developing web sites and Opera for shopping online and using my bank account. I am sceptical to a site that renders bad in Opera. How good are the web master (on security and programming in general)? Opera is also in the front on mobile browsing that is getting more and more important. Mobile browsing is relatively more popular in Asia, Africa and other parts of the world with no internet infrastructure aside from wireless connection via mobile platforms.
2. Opera is also my favourite recommendation for the new and inexperienced surfer since in my opinion, until the opposite is proved, it is a more secure browser and a less spam target, simply because Opera's market share is smaller.

Personal recommendation. Don't log into your bank account with a wireless mobile medium. If you have to, don't do it in crowded places and close to people using a laptop.

P.S. Note that the above link points to Opera Mobile 10 beta.