Which browser::: Shopping online?

[kgun]

OKi u want some facts Your shopping security relies more on the websites security and not on your browser security.

One of Opera's security principles is:

"Don't rely on any website".

The same message from Cisco but in other words:
http://www.webproworld.com/internet-...tml#post407777

Also allot of great big and secure shopping sites also use javascript so by using that what u are suggesting u are excluding them

That is a general advice:
"It is very easy to turn off JavaScript by hitting F12 and and uncheck the JavaScript box. Don't shop on a site that forces you to use JavaScript, even if it is on a secure server HTTPS. Here is an example for the tech freak: No love for the module pattern? "

Some browsers have better default options and make such acelleration keys easier to use. I have heard people say that once they installed Opera, they got rid of all annoying pop ups etc. by default.

Again which facts can you bring to the table about FF's and Opera's security model?

[moneymen]

Man your whole post on Safe shopping with Opera is based on issue on javascript

Turn JavaSript off while shopping online. F12

Opera's general principle is to trust no internet site. JavaScript can have been installed on trusted sites.

Server scripting is more secure than client scripting - JavaScript.

Don't rely on any site that force you to use JavaScript when shopping.

W3 Schools JavaScript statistics:

Because more and more internet sites have AJAX functionality where the J indicates JavaScript. That also implies that more and more surfers surf with JavaScript turned on. That is a potential security threat, so turn JavaScrip off when shopping online. According to W3 Schools, 95 % surf the web with JavaScript turned on in 2009. That is the highest number registered on W3 Schools since January 2000.

So like i said 90% of your post about opera security for shopping is based on the javascript issue which is only 2% of potential danger

so i don't so where are the facts in your post

mostly its based on your opinion from surfing and shopping i don't see any facts there just your personal expression


and according to the your saying that users like opera more i think the statistics that u posted "back it up" leading of firefox in every month

i think i proven my point here

there is nothing in your post that actually is convincing that opera is safer for online shopping than firefox,not a single thing

[kgun]

Man your whole post on Safe shopping with Opera is based on issue on javascript

I only repeat this statement where I have bolded one word for you.

"Don't rely on any site that force you to use JavaScript when shopping".

So like i said 90% of your post about opera security for shopping is based on the javascript issue which is only 2% of potential danger

1. Where have you got that number from? Source please.
2. Go back to my original post.

so i don't so where are the facts in your post

mostly its based on your opinion from surfing and shopping i don't see any facts there just your personal expression

1. Is it a fact that FireFox is open source?
2. Do you think Opera's engineers have and constantly study that source code?
3. Is it a fact that there are thousands of FireFox plugins?
4. Can you or anyone else guarantee that there are no security holes related to these plugins?

Answer these questions please before you continue.

and according to the your saying that users like opera more i think the statistics that u posted "back it up" leading of firefox in every month

i think i proven my point here

1. "your saying that users like opera more" Where?
2. You have proven nothing.

there is nothing in your post that actually is convincing that opera is safer for online shopping than firefox,not a single thing

Can you bring some facts on the opposite? I have reported some facts above. My time with you are running out.

[moneymen]

Is it a fact that FireFox is open source?
Do you think Opera's engineers have and constantly study that source code?
Is it a fact that there are thousands of FireFox plugins?
Can you or anyone else guarantee that there are no security holes related to these plugins?

1. Yes firefox is open source that is what makes it so good.Nobody i forcing u to use non prooven plugins like nobody is forcing u to use javascript with or without opera its irelevant.
2.Am not saying that they don't study on the code but here is one fact for your Open source means allot more people working on it.Bigger team bigger chance to make safer browser.everybody knows that open source is better than and its developing better while its open source
3.Yes there is tons of FF plugins but u are not forced to use them nobody mentioned u must use those plugins
4.can u quaranty that there is no security holes on the opera.There is no browser that has no holes inside that is the fact.I doesn't mater is it opera,firefox IE or any other they all have it so there goes of your fact

another fact Top 6 Alternatives for McAfee SiteAdvisor - Browse Safe - browser, browser defender, defender, firefox, mcafee, phish, phishing, security, siteadvisor, threatexpert, web of trust, WOT - Technically Personal!


according to mcafee if i don't concider their payed browser since of course they will put it in forst place they sell it
there u go fact from experts that ff is the best one.and also some plugins recomended by them for safe browsing and safe shopping
also u can read there "Mozilla Firefox has a built-in security feature where it can block some attack sites and web forgeries. It works fine, but in my opinion, it is a little annoying when I want to ignore the warning and continue accessing the “attack site”." u can read rest of the article on the link i provided



"Shop and do business safely on the Internet. Firefox gets a fresh update of web forgery sites 48 times in a day, so if you try to visit a fraudulent site that’s pretending to be a site you trust (like your bank), a browser message—big as life—will stop you."

copy pasted from firefox site
u can check it here

Firefox web browser | Features: Faster, more secure, & customizable | Mozilla Europe
check the sections Anti-phishing and
Customized Security Settings


i think its enough
On the links above u will find allot of security advantages of firefox for browsing and online shopping compared to one that u mentioned in opera disabling javascript and warning on the websites that use it

and am not planing to continue this debate with u here since it is turning in to the spamming of the thread i

I think on above links u will find allot of experts prooving u what am trying to tell u whole time so i will let them continue thius debate with you u since its pointless for me to i know that on the reply on this post u will think of some new "fact" just to continue activity of your thread and i think that is what u actually want its not about browsers anymore

[kgun]

1. Since you introduce yourself as a "Security expert and SEO noob here"
2. Since you are online. So long you have used less than 5 minutes to respond to my posts. I give you 15 minutes to explain:
   - Encapsulation.
   - The difference between private, protected and public class elements.
   - What is a friend of a class?
3. On the rest you can use as long time as you want. Since JavaScript don't seem to be a big issue for you. Why are server scripting generally, ie. ceteris paribus, more secure than browser scripting? If you don't agree on that, explain why.
4. Do you regard a privileged based security model more secure than Opera's security model? Do you know Opera's security model?
5. Note, I don't regard myself as a security expert, so it should be simple to explain this to the surfer and WPW's members.
6. In short it should be simple for you as a security expert to convince me that FireFox is a more secure browser than Opera.
7. So use 15 minutes from this post is posted to answer point 2 please.
8. The longer time you use, the less convinced am I on your security expertise.

So (s)he logged out without answering.

[moneymen]

Rofl only god can convince u on something and nobody else and am online even if am offline if u know what does that mean.

As i said before i wont continue this debate and make your tread popular that way

i have no nerves for your childish games
go find some younger folks and force them to accept your opinion coz am not convinced
and on the statistics u provided on your first post show that am not the only one
as for the 15 minutes that u give me rofl u really think that u are my only worie and that i spent 15 minutes replying your post.Who do u think u are to order me something

"I give you 15 minutes to explain" who do u think u are ????Man get a life



p.s. As i see u can't stand critique please stay away from my posts and i will stay away from yours.One reply to your post at the beggining and i find all my posts and topic replayed with your sarcasm (attacked by u in every way)

go get a life and leave me allone.....

[kgun]

i have no nerves for your childish games
go find some younger folks and force them to accept your opinion coz am not convinced

I agree, you should have strong nerves to discuss this topic. Online scam and fraud is a multibillion business. See my second post: http://www.webproworld.com/internet-...tml#post439052

"I give you 15 minutes to explain" who do u think u are ????Man get a life

A simple man concerned about online security.

If you don't know about encapsulation and private data members, you get a http://www.webproworld.com/web-progr...tml#post226176 here.

[moneymen]

I agree, you should have strong nerves to discuss this topic. Online scam and fraud is a multibillion business. See my second post: Which browser::: Shopping online?

ya i should have strong nerves but not coz of that reason but coz am debating with someone who know shit about scams and fraud on the net and its so stubborn so it doesn't want to admit that he was wrong

A simple man concerned about online security.

That sounded like ordering me to explain u something.U better watch the tone of your voice if u are pissed that u got beaten in debate go and find some to gym and cool it of don't feed your complexes here as i wont allow u

that is it for me on this thread

Admins will u please close this topic obviously man cant stand that his opinion is not numero uno for other people


Like i said i have no time or nerves for this

[kgun]

p.s. As i see u can't stand critique please stay away from my posts and i will stay away from yours...

1. Can't stand critique or discussion?
2. I will not stand away from your posts if I think you are wrong on security related issues.
3. The reason I gave you 15 minutes is obvious. You should not copy posts from the internet. You have still not answered that post.
4. Note, I have discussed with extremely clever copy cats that gave the impression that they had at least a undergraduate degree in mathematics.
5. This is not a childish game. It is about online security. Do you agree?
6. And give me the respect that I can decide when this thread should be closed.
7. I see no reason to close it, since I am open to new information.

[moneymen]

U are not open to anything so its pointless
get a life man