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    Re: Web Page disappeared from Google

    but sometimes a site just drops out for a week or two and then reappears in its old spot.
    That's the historical data algorithms at work. Sometimes you´re outside of the limits and then you´re back in. In this case a couple of new backlinks will keep you inside. It's a very indirect cause and result thingy... which makes it hard to accept that it really works like that...
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    Re: Web Page disappeared from Google

    Quote Originally Posted by jxw View Post
    David,

    Don't know what you did since I looked at this thread last week, but this morning Connie Bryson is #3 on page 1 for my Google search here in Bucks County PA. You received a lot of good advice here, but sometimes a site just drops out for a week or two and then reappears in its old spot. A lot of theories about this on other threads but no one seems to know for sure.
    I noticed it over the weekend at #2 and an indented result at #3. Still there.

    When I first checked the site, using the info: site: and cache: operators for the URL with the www. Google returned nothing for all 3.

    If you check the canonical version of URL using the www. today using those operators, each of them return the URL without the www.

    What does this mean?

    It likely means that a preferred version of the URL has been assigned and that any "value" is now being attributed to the non www. version of the URL.

    Many times when this kind of thing happens, and quite likely in this particular instance IMO, is that Google had more than 1 canonical version of the URL indexed. At least one in the RI and the other(s) either in the SI or being filtered.

    Eventually, and sometimes this can take a very long time, Google gets around to "assigning" a preferred canonical URL when there are multiple versions. When this happens, the other URL's are deindexed. Unfortunately, sometimes the version of the URL they decide is going to be the preferred one is one that is being filtered or not the one you want.

    The "value" of the URL's that are deindexed (ie any links etc.) does not "immediately" pass to the URL that has been "deemed preferred". I does take a bit of time just like 301 redirects do.

    This is why it's importantant from the onset of any site, to establish the preferred version of the URL yourself, be consistant with that URL, and redirect any others.

    Hope this makes sense.

    Dave

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    Re: Web Page disappeared from Google

    Actually, CrankyDave, since the site I referred to in my post also returned this weekend then it is much more likely that yet again it is merely an algo tweak, and this one with the bug not being there, and not a canonical issue at all.

    David... gratz on the return, but unfortunately since it does seem like this is related to the bug I mentioned I have to warn you that it is indeed and on again/off again type of thing. It will probably disappear again in one of the future shifts, only to re-appear again with no changes down the line. Since minor bugs like these really aren't a high priority for Google it's just something we kind of have to put up with. I can even picture the engineers at Google telling their bosses it's not really a bug at all, but a "feature".

    -Michael

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    Re: Web Page disappeared from Google

    Quote Originally Posted by mvandemar View Post
    Actually, CrankyDave, since the site I referred to in my post also returned this weekend then it is much more likely that yet again it is merely an algo tweak, and this one with the bug not being there, and not a canonical issue at all.

    -Michael
    Quite possible Michael. I don't discount this at all. But given that the site here returned nothing for one of the canonical URL's using various operaters and is now being attributed to another, quite plausible that the "bug" is related to the canonical issue. We both know they've had a few of those.

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    Re: Web Page disappeared from Google

    If no one mentioned already in the thread, not all pages title tags are unique. I spot the problem after checking the SI results test: Supplemental Index Ratio Calculator

    You can find see the problems using this elegant site map generator: Google Sitemaps Generator, Editor and Keyword Analyzer Free Online

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    Re: Web Page disappeared from Google

    since the site I referred to in my post also returned this weekend then it is much more likely that yet again it is merely an algo tweak
    Also no algo tweak. However, Google did find the links from this forum to the site.... Which brings the average backlink age down again,. maybe just enough to be back in again.
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