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Thread: Plagiarism & Google's duplicate content detection question?

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    Plagiarism & Google's duplicate content detection question?

    Happy New Year everybody.

    ok so you know youre doing ok when people start copying your stuff. i'd like to ask a question, well a few actually

    if somebody copied EXACTLY the layout of an seo site you just built, the functionality, the link structure including ALL the keyword researched anchor text in the internal linking, the same for the keyword researched page titles substituting only their clients name for mine in them, (..their client is the main competitor of my own client's newish site i recently built.)

    I can tell it was actually copied using the cut and paste method, and my hyperlinks then just replaced with theirs by:

    a) just looking

    b) their (whoops!) leaving of an actual link to a page in my client's site (their clients competitor) on the homepage.

    questions:

    1) would exact copies of Titles (their page content is their own.) including Capitalisations for identical market keywords be enough to trigger duplicate content penalties?

    2) if so, am I am assuming that as all my pages are already indexed, any penalties would be applied to the plagiarised site, which is currently not showing any of the new pages indexed?

    (i only found out about it when my clients links report showed our main competitor linking to us )

    3) what would you do, if anything about it?

    I am not overly concerned with the plagiarism, even though the page titles do take it a little far. A comparison of the two sites sitemaps is really quite amusing. ..but I wouldnt want my client's site to suffer from it, that would be unacceptable.

    has anyone any experience of having a site design copied exactly by a rival right down to your titles and page link and anchor text?

    edit, i just looked some more and this applies to ALL the metas too. I know theyre not importnat rankings wise, but if someone else has exactly the same metas, part titles and anchor text links in the same keyword area surely G's got to notice?

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    Re: Plagiarism & Google's duplicate content detection question?

    I've had someone totally copy and text of one of my sites and pretty much the layout as well...the layout concept anyways...i found it didn't hurt me in the slightest and it seem that them using my website name (they registered the same domain name altered slightly), keywords and copy help give credence to my site of which still bubbles at the top of the serps for my keywords so...

    so in my case it didn't hurt - at first i had feelings of dismay and wanted to speak to the so-called web desinger but now i laugh cause well he's obviously not so much of a web designer although he has a link in the footer of that website which has NOTHING to do with web design to his *coughs* design site...

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    Re: Plagiarism & Google's duplicate content detection question?

    If it looks as if it was done by another SEO company i'd inform the website owner of their deception, they may have paid good cash to have a website SEOed for them.

    If you can't tell, inform their host and show your proof the host will either pull their site or contact them regarding changing their site.

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    Re: Plagiarism & Google's duplicate content detection question?

    Quote Originally Posted by garv View Post
    If it looks as if it was done by another SEO company i'd inform the website owner of their deception, they may have paid good cash to have a website SEOed for them.

    If you can't tell, inform their host and show your proof the host will either pull their site or contact them regarding changing their site.
    ...and that all depends as well...

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    Angry Find Their Physical Address And Show Up With "Friends"

    Let these maggots know that you will not tolerate their THEFT! If they don't take the site down immediately:

    1. Sign up every email address they have for as much porn as possible.

    2. Sign their physical office address up for as many trial magazine subscriptions as you can shake out of a bookstore magazine stand. Make sure and include plenty of porn!

    3. Find their home address and have an opposite member their spouses/SO's sex make breathless calls asking for them and then "get nervous" and hang up.

    4. Sign them up for a home subscription to... you guessed it.. PORN!

    5. File a negative BBB report.

    6. Report them to their local Chamber of Commerce

    7. Sue them in YOUR jurisdiction. Make them travel!

    8. Contact their client and let the client know what has happened and that they will be held liable if the site is not replaced.

    9. If their client refuses, pursue steps 5 and 6 with them!

    Other fun ways to deal with these types of @$$holes...

    > Mail a box of live fire ants anonymously to their office
    > Send an anonymous report to Child Protective Services and the local school system, telling them you suspect the person is involved in child pornography and abuses their/neighborhood children
    > Use Caller ID spoofing to order twenty large pizzas for their "office party."

    "Revenge is a dish best served cold." Khaan

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    Re: Plagiarism & Google's duplicate content detection question?

    Quote Originally Posted by garv View Post
    If it looks as if it was done by another SEO company i'd inform the website owner of their deception, they may have paid good cash to have a website SEOed for them.

    If you can't tell, inform their host and show your proof the host will either pull their site or contact them regarding changing their site.
    haha thanks guys but this is a small island. I know who did it, and they would have been paid. i also know the owners of the competition site personally. i dont want to cause any trouble, and we all have to start somewhere, i think i'll just up my game and leave them trailing in the dust

    it just means now i have to go back and re tweak it further before i wanted to, for no recompense, out of pride alone

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    Re: Find Their Physical Address And Show Up With "Friends"

    Quote Originally Posted by westrajc View Post
    Let these maggots know that you will not tolerate their THEFT! If they don't take the site down immediately:

    1. Sign up every email address they have for as much porn as possible.

    2. Sign their physical office address up for as many trial magazine subscriptions as you can shake out of a bookstore magazine stand. Make sure and include plenty of porn!

    3. Find their home address and have an opposite member their spouses/SO's sex make breathless calls asking for them and then "get nervous" and hang up.

    4. Sign them up for a home subscription to... you guessed it.. PORN!

    5. File a negative BBB report.

    6. Report them to their local Chamber of Commerce

    7. Sue them in YOUR jurisdiction. Make them travel!

    8. Contact their client and let the client know what has happened and that they will be held liable if the site is not replaced.

    9. If their client refuses, pursue steps 5 and 6 with them!

    Other fun ways to deal with these types of @$$holes...

    > Mail a box of live fire ants anonymously to their office
    > Send an anonymous report to Child Protective Services and the local school system, telling them you suspect the person is involved in child pornography and abuses their/neighborhood children
    > Use Caller ID spoofing to order twenty large pizzas for their "office party."

    "Revenge is a dish best served cold." Khaan
    bwahahahaah!!!! ah, the good old days.... lmao.

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    Re: Find Their Physical Address And Show Up With "Friends"

    Quote Originally Posted by westrajc View Post
    "Revenge is a dish best served cold." Khaan
    And it will come back to you as well.

    Just do what you can legally without losing sleep at night. Things like this will happen. Keep moving forward.

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    Re: Plagiarism & Google's duplicate content detection question?

    I agree with Donny ... just turn it over to your lawyer and move on. You are going to make more money doing what you do than wasting your time f--king with them.

    Arthur

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    Re: Find Their Physical Address And Show Up With "Friends"

    Quote Originally Posted by westrajc View Post
    Let these maggots know that you will not tolerate their THEFT! If they don't take the site down immediately:

    1. Sign up every email address they have for as much porn as possible.

    2. Sign their physical office address up for as many trial magazine subscriptions as you can shake out of a bookstore magazine stand. Make sure and include plenty of porn!

    3. Find their home address and have an opposite member their spouses/SO's sex make breathless calls asking for them and then "get nervous" and hang up.

    4. Sign them up for a home subscription to... you guessed it.. PORN!

    5. File a negative BBB report.

    6. Report them to their local Chamber of Commerce

    7. Sue them in YOUR jurisdiction. Make them travel!

    8. Contact their client and let the client know what has happened and that they will be held liable if the site is not replaced.

    9. If their client refuses, pursue steps 5 and 6 with them!

    Other fun ways to deal with these types of @$$holes...


    "Revenge is a dish best served cold." Khaan
    lol someone's angry and frankly I second the motion !!!

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