Plagiarism & Google's duplicate content detection question?

[kevsta]

Happy New Year everybody.

ok so you know youre doing ok when people start copying your stuff. i'd like to ask a question, well a few actually

if somebody copied EXACTLY the layout of an seo site you just built, the functionality, the link structure including ALL the keyword researched anchor text in the internal linking, the same for the keyword researched page titles substituting only their clients name for mine in them, (..their client is the main competitor of my own client's newish site i recently built.)

I can tell it was actually copied using the cut and paste method, and my hyperlinks then just replaced with theirs by:

a) just looking

b) their (whoops!) leaving of an actual link to a page in my client's site (their clients competitor) on the homepage.

questions:

1) would exact copies of Titles (their page content is their own.) including Capitalisations for identical market keywords be enough to trigger duplicate content penalties?

2) if so, am I am assuming that as all my pages are already indexed, any penalties would be applied to the plagiarised site, which is currently not showing any of the new pages indexed?

(i only found out about it when my clients links report showed our main competitor linking to us )

3) what would you do, if anything about it?

I am not overly concerned with the plagiarism, even though the page titles do take it a little far. A comparison of the two sites sitemaps is really quite amusing. ..but I wouldnt want my client's site to suffer from it, that would be unacceptable.

has anyone any experience of having a site design copied exactly by a rival right down to your titles and page link and anchor text?

edit, i just looked some more and this applies to ALL the metas too. I know theyre not importnat rankings wise, but if someone else has exactly the same metas, part titles and anchor text links in the same keyword area surely G's got to notice?

[jtracking]

I've had someone totally copy and text of one of my sites and pretty much the layout as well...the layout concept anyways...i found it didn't hurt me in the slightest and it seem that them using my website name (they registered the same domain name altered slightly), keywords and copy help give credence to my site of which still bubbles at the top of the serps for my keywords so...

so in my case it didn't hurt - at first i had feelings of dismay and wanted to speak to the so-called web desinger but now i laugh cause well he's obviously not so much of a web designer although he has a link in the footer of that website which has NOTHING to do with web design to his *coughs* design site...

[westrajc]

Let these maggots know that you will not tolerate their THEFT! If they don't take the site down immediately:

1. Sign up every email address they have for as much porn as possible.

2. Sign their physical office address up for as many trial magazine subscriptions as you can shake out of a bookstore magazine stand. Make sure and include plenty of porn!

3. Find their home address and have an opposite member their spouses/SO's sex make breathless calls asking for them and then "get nervous" and hang up.

4. Sign them up for a home subscription to... you guessed it.. PORN!

5. File a negative BBB report.

6. Report them to their local Chamber of Commerce

7. Sue them in YOUR jurisdiction. Make them travel!

8. Contact their client and let the client know what has happened and that they will be held liable if the site is not replaced.

9. If their client refuses, pursue steps 5 and 6 with them!

Other fun ways to deal with these types of @$$holes...

> Mail a box of live fire ants anonymously to their office
> Send an anonymous report to Child Protective Services and the local school system, telling them you suspect the person is involved in child pornography and abuses their/neighborhood children
> Use Caller ID spoofing to order twenty large pizzas for their "office party."

"Revenge is a dish best served cold." Khaan

[kevsta]

Let these maggots know that you will not tolerate their THEFT! If they don't take the site down immediately:

1. Sign up every email address they have for as much porn as possible.

2. Sign their physical office address up for as many trial magazine subscriptions as you can shake out of a bookstore magazine stand. Make sure and include plenty of porn!

3. Find their home address and have an opposite member their spouses/SO's sex make breathless calls asking for them and then "get nervous" and hang up.

4. Sign them up for a home subscription to... you guessed it.. PORN!

5. File a negative BBB report.

6. Report them to their local Chamber of Commerce

7. Sue them in YOUR jurisdiction. Make them travel!

8. Contact their client and let the client know what has happened and that they will be held liable if the site is not replaced.

9. If their client refuses, pursue steps 5 and 6 with them!

Other fun ways to deal with these types of @$$holes...

> Mail a box of live fire ants anonymously to their office
> Send an anonymous report to Child Protective Services and the local school system, telling them you suspect the person is involved in child pornography and abuses their/neighborhood children
> Use Caller ID spoofing to order twenty large pizzas for their "office party."

"Revenge is a dish best served cold." Khaan

bwahahahaah!!!! ah, the good old days.... lmao.

[itsdonny]

"Revenge is a dish best served cold." Khaan

And it will come back to you as well.

Just do what you can legally without losing sleep at night. Things like this will happen. Keep moving forward.

[ArthurNYC]

I agree with Donny ... just turn it over to your lawyer and move on. You are going to make more money doing what you do than wasting your time f--king with them.

Arthur

[jtracking]

Let these maggots know that you will not tolerate their THEFT! If they don't take the site down immediately:

1. Sign up every email address they have for as much porn as possible.

2. Sign their physical office address up for as many trial magazine subscriptions as you can shake out of a bookstore magazine stand. Make sure and include plenty of porn!

3. Find their home address and have an opposite member their spouses/SO's sex make breathless calls asking for them and then "get nervous" and hang up.

4. Sign them up for a home subscription to... you guessed it.. PORN!

5. File a negative BBB report.

6. Report them to their local Chamber of Commerce

7. Sue them in YOUR jurisdiction. Make them travel!

8. Contact their client and let the client know what has happened and that they will be held liable if the site is not replaced.

9. If their client refuses, pursue steps 5 and 6 with them!

Other fun ways to deal with these types of @$$holes...


"Revenge is a dish best served cold." Khaan

lol someone's angry and frankly I second the motion !!!

[phx-keith]

Don't do anything evil.

I would contact their client via your attorney asking them to take the website down. Ask for attorney's fees and damages as well.

Find out where they are hosted and file a complaint. If your complaint is substantiated they may cancel their hosting and impound their domain.

I'm working on the same but to a lesser degree problem.

It is a wacky world out there.

[craigmn3]

Find out where they are hosted and file a complaint. If your complaint is substantiated they may cancel their hosting and impound their domain.

While contacting an attorney would be a flippin waste of time and resources. Your best bet IS to contact the hoster of the flagrantly offending site. If they are a reputible company like GoDaddy Hostway or any other of the many good hosters they will take down the offending site.
I had some experience with that.

You will never get any satisfaction out of the deal, and you won't see any money. But you can take down the site.

[sitecreations]

You guys might like this story of how Jupiter Media copied one guy's blog post word for word. It is a case where the COPY clearly stole some of the "steam" of the original.

The Original, Brilliant Post
10 Absolute NOs! for Freelancers Tip on Behance Network

A Blantant Copy (with tiny attribution and monetization) - (jupiter media owns this, original author did not provide permission.)
10 Absolute "Nos!" for Freelancers | creativebits

Another Blatant Copy (with tiny attribution and monetization)
10 Absolute NOs! for Freelancers Tip on Behance Network

Because Jupiter Media is an "upstanding Internet citizen" with apparent Google Trust, the second one above outranks the first. The irony is that Jupiter is in the business of licensing content for $$.