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    Webmaster Credit Where Credit is Due

    Since I have been designing sites I usually place a site wide link back to my site in the footer. (The exceptions are another topic.) I believe only one link is “credited” PR wise … but I am wondering whether it would be a stronger move, SEO-wise, to only link back from the home page.

    What do you do with client sites?

    Do you think a home page only link would be an advantage, SEO wise?
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    Re: Webmaster Credit Where Credit is Due

    Quote Originally Posted by mjtaylor View Post
    Since I have been designing sites I usually place a site wide link back to my site in the footer. (The exceptions are another topic.) I believe only one link is “credited” PR wise … but I am wondering whether it would be a stronger move, SEO-wise, to only link back from the home page.

    What do you do with client sites?

    Do you think a home page only link would be an advantage, SEO wise?
    1. This practice is old school and unethical.
    2. If you still do that, how can you have profit SEOwise when your clients sites are irrelevant to you theme?
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    Re: Webmaster Credit Where Credit is Due

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    1. This practice is old school and unethical.
    2. If you still do that, how can you have profit SEOwise when your clients sites are irrelevant to you theme?
    SEO isn't the only consideration. I get a large amount of my business from the unobtrusive links (usually site-wide) I put on websites I build. Often prospects mention a feature that I put on another website that they would like on theirs. Clients who come to me that way tend to be sold on my services already. Those links are worth gold. If I didn't have them, I don't think I'd have a business.

    Likewise, I often check out my competition the same way. I don't think it's unethical; it's rather like an artist signing a painting or an author having their name on their book. It's essential to me.
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    Re: Webmaster Credit Where Credit is Due

    Let me be more specific:

    1. Google clearly states: "It is not only the number of links you have pointing to your site that matters, but also the quality and relevance of those links." Webmaster Help Center - Link schemes

    Are your clients web designers? SEOs? In other words, are their sites relevant to your site's theme? If not you are asking for trouble. You can avoid that trouble if in those links the "nofollow" attribute is implemented.

    2. It is maybe not unethical, if you do not require that. But anyway I did that once, but never again. Some years ago, a client screwed their site I made, and they still had my link on it. That sucked! I had to hire an attorney to convince them to get rid of my link. Are you sure that your signature would be worth there? Me not!
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    Re: Webmaster Credit Where Credit is Due

    Quote Originally Posted by mjtaylor View Post
    I believe only one link is “credited” PR wise …
    PR wise? Irrelevant to your site theme IBL?
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    Re: Webmaster Credit Where Credit is Due

    Quote Originally Posted by holmpage View Post
    SEO isn't the only consideration.
    The original poster asked SEO wise.
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    Re: Webmaster Credit Where Credit is Due

    Maybe not unethical, but unwise...?

    Some corporate sites do not want you to put a credit link on their site, others have preferred you put it in their 'links' section (if they have one). Ask the client first... it is their site and they are paying for a presence and may not want your ad - no matter how unobtrusive.

    I always put credits in hidden tags in my coded pages and like Webnauts I too have a couple sites floating around still giving me credit from 6 or 7 years ago, the sites are a total mess and embarrassing disaster, unfortunately I am still credited for these nightmare sites taken over by employees or family members!

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    Re: Webmaster Credit Where Credit is Due

    I get about 80% of my design and SEO work via those small links on the bottoms of sites. Some are more relevant than others of course, many are not relevant. They do not give me as much benefit SEO-wise but they do give some.

    I always do it with the clients consent, if they don't want the link their I'll remove it (extremely rare I think I've only had about 5 clients sites out of about 800 where I haven't linked back).

    I do the links site wide as I add them in the footer and I use SSI for almost all my sites.

    When a client leaves me or the site is redesigned I always remove or edit the link.

    Also I make sure the link text is unobtrusive and specific to the job.. ie. web design by: orionsweb.net or hosted by owhosting.com etc. sometimes I don't link them and just put the text also.
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    Re: Webmaster Credit Where Credit is Due

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    Every inbound link carries a score with it....!!!!!!

    Some is positive and some is negative...!!!

    you need to evaluate the sites relevance and target market.

    avoid those that have PORN, Hate speach etc...

    Buy you as the designer should know what type of site you are building...

    At the end of the day this is a very debateable subject, as we do not actualt have the Search engine algorythm...

    so the trick is to be selective where you place your links, but if you do place links on a site, the more the merrier, as long as you do not exceed 10 (this is not exact, but this is the number that affected me before on a small test.) links per page

    one link per page as you describe is a great plus on sites that you have approved, but like Webnaughts says what hapens when the client changes his tactics and starts placing spamy stuff within his / her pages?

    at this point you will begin to get negative Juice from the links on this site, and these negative points have a huge impact very fasrt. so you do need top be careful, and do not treat all with the same ointment, as each ailment needs its own remidie.
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