Is Mozilla the best browser???

[kgun]

Ok, some very personal opinions.

1. From a birds eye view, the internet, the infra structure for the World Wide Web, is a collection of computer nodes (web servers) that delivers documents based on a DOM node tree.
2. Most of the documents are a static HTML tag soup like (X)HTML with bad taste. There is one main data structure, a node tree.
3. Here is one example that I made today. How many use definition lists? How many use blockquote correctly? Look at the source.
4. HTML is very easy to use, but was a disaster from the very beginning. From the very beginning is should be based on SGML or alt least the strict subset XML that allows a dynamic tag set and implement strict well-formedness rules.
5. There should be more flexibility on datastructures than node trees, for a web resource residing on an URI (IRI).
6. Web standards are a nightmare, especially how they are implemented in different browsers.
7. A better internet is being build and a science of the web is emerging (the site is down here when writing these few lines). Hopefully the new infrastructure will open for stricter browser and markup standards and more flexibilities in datastructures without giving up a model comparable to HTML in simplicity.
8. Security: The new internet should implement best default practices on security in a pattern or class that can be plugged directly into your sites code, preferrably by a one liner. The same could apply to web browsers.

Related WPW thread:
http://www.webproworld.com/google-di...tml#post339093

(C) kgun and WPW. Set a standard and link to this post if you got some ideas from it and make an article out of those ideas.

[deepsand]

I am using the latest version, and the problems I noticed existed on two different computers, a laptop and a new tower system.

I recall criticising FF to someone who was clearly a fanatic and a bit of a twit. too! His 'killer' response was: "Well, you can't expect too much from Firefox! It is free, you know!"

Would the "latest version" by any chance be the beta version of FF3?

[kgun]

Firefox may be the best browser for webmasters, because of all the plugins, that you have to trust (I will still not reccomend it for the surfer). But there are security reason to test a page thoroughly in Opera.

[carbonize]

. o 0 (And how much does kgun get paid by Opera?)

I have said it before, I'll say it again. As far as I am concerned Opera is no more secure than Firefox.

[kgun]

Is FF's security model still based on previleges?

Nobody has answered the simple question given above, related to the fact that it is impossible to drag an URL from the address field in Opera to the desktop. Since you say:

<quote>
I have said it before, I'll say it again. As far as I am concerned Opera is no more secure than Firefox.
</quote>

you should be able to answer that simple question.

I think none of us can say 100 % since, we do not know the code. I have my preferences that is not consiously related to the country where the browser is made.

[kgun]

. o 0 (And how much does kgun get paid by Opera?)

Not a single penny. I was an affiliate (I do not have control over all my pages) but think I have deleted most of the outdated banners.

If I had any relation to Opera, the first thing I would advice them to, is to use more and may be more professional affilate providers. Norwegians have traditionally been horrible on ad.

Example:
Simula (multiple inheritance in the 1960's - modern OOP landuages do not have that) and BETA (patterns, compact and still ahead of time). Strostrup (a Dane) made C++. Another made C# that may be billion industry. A Dane is as far as I know also involved in Ruby, that is too simple for some projects, but simple enough for Average Joe's ad site or online shop.

[cw1865]

What is it about Opera that would make a typical user who gets a computer, plugs it in, has access to Internet Explorer, want to spend additional money?

What does it do that IE doesn't?

[kgun]

Have you read this thread?

My private apriori (Bayesian - I have a course on the master level) confidence interval estimate:

Spam / scam should in the USA, at least be reduced by 20 - 30 % by using Opera as intensively as IE. If you disagree, reread this whole tread again before you reply on the robustness of that estimate.

[ushuiah]

For me mozilla is best. There a lot of add-ons that you can use that can ease your burden.