Completely missing from MSN results?

[Simon Young]

Firstly let me stress I have never used any black hat techniques or cheating or dodgy link farms etc...

However my site which is 7 years old has dropped completely out of MSN's results where we used to enjoy several hundred visitors a day from MSN and have quite a few first page positions for our chosen keywords and phrases.

My site is DVD-and-media.com blank dvd recordable disc and case products for duplication and replication - it is a UK based dot com

We also own the domains dvd-and-media.co.uk and dvdandmedia.co.uk

The only site even showing in MSN is dvdandmedia.co.uk and this we only bought this year so it has no age or PR assigned and it is set up on a permanent redirect to our main site dvd-and-media.com - but rather than indexing and listing our pages in MSN there is just the one page in MSN and that is found by doing a search - site:dvdandmedia.co.uk and one result is found. search site:dvd-and-media.com gives zero results where in the past it gave thousands!

We list well on Google with many top 3 positions and a few No.1's .... why have we suddenly been dumped by MSN??? I have tried emailing MSN and filling out their "I didn't find what I am looking for" forms without any reply.

I have also checked my .htaccess files and apache configuration on the server and everything looks correct for the redirects, our main site has not been offline either.

So I am looking for some help from you guys and girls on here... I have been more of a lurker and learner on Webproworld up until now and hope you can help me out of this dilemma and see my site fully indexed in MSN again.

All help will be most greatfully received.

[DanThies]

Simon, the problem might be the duplicate site that you are hosting at www.gold2012.com.
Just a hunch, though.

[smeatz]

hahaha... you got a good laugh out of me with "that" lil (subtly sarcastic) gem of a reply, Dan

I guess we shouldn't go "too hard" on Simon though... lets face it, he IS in the "duplication and replication" niche!



Cheers,

Smeatz

[DanThies]

I doubt this was intentional, Smeatz. It could very easily just be a server configuration problem, and I think if it were intentional they probably wouldn't be asking questions here. Either way, gold2012.com is indexed @ MSN, and the intended domain is not.

[halfmexi]

Half of my clients sites disappeared in MSN for September - some in the top 5 in their respective search queries... I think they are just re-adjusting their (supposed) new search that is supposed to compete with Google.............. yeah right, I know...

MSN can dream I guess...

[Clint1]

Half of my clients sites disappeared in MSN for September - some in the top 5 in their respective search queries... I think they are just re-adjusting their (supposed) new search that is supposed to compete with Google.............. yeah right, I know...

MSN can dream I guess...

If their goal is to compete with G by REMOVING useful relevant whitehat pages, they've definitely succeeded and done that even "better" than G. They are a total mess, and thanks to this "Live" search crap of theirs, G has widened the gap.

[KenGalo]

Hi folks,

I have been a reader for years here but rarely post since it's out of my element. I run an office cleaning service and my site L & K Office Cleaning and Janitorial Services was ranking fairly high with MSN for a few years up until this past winter when it completely dropped off to page 30.

Last month I signed up for a few of their contests and the StartupNation site and the Home Based Business contest, within 4 weeks I was back on page 1.

Go figure, because I can't.

[Doolallys]

My site, Online Casinos | Poker | Bingo | Gambling has been missing from MSN since the turn of the year. When I ask what's wrong they just say it's a small problem they have that will be fixed soon.

Personally I think the algo. they use has a flaw that they can't fix.

[Clint1]

Hi folks,

I have been a reader for years here but rarely post since it's out of my element. I run an office cleaning service and my site L & K Office Cleaning and Janitorial Services was ranking fairly high with MSN for a few years up until this past winter when it completely dropped off to page 30.

Last month I signed up for a few of their contests and the StartupNation site and the Home Based Business contest, within 4 weeks I was back on page 1.

Go figure, because I can't.

What kind of contests?

[Clint1]

My site, Online Casinos | Poker | Bingo | Gambling has been missing from MSN since the turn of the year. When I ask what's wrong they just say it's a small problem they have that will be fixed soon.

Personally I think the algo they use has a flaw that they can't fix.

Yeah, it's like G--they've screwed up something they now don't know how to fix. Both can't leave well enough alone. "Small"?? It's "small" to them as they put it because they are not in the position of site owners that NEED their pages indexed in order to have an income! If they actually admit it, you know it's big.

Another thing, I have roughly 400 pages and now MSN shows (get this) about 1200 pages indexed. WTF??? Did someone upload about 800 pages to my site of which I'm unaware?? So it would seem their site: operator also isn't working......along with their submit URL page which also isn't working.