One Top Firm - Portal ResponseTechnology

[truthtalker]

These cons change company names constantly. Used to be, GO DOTLESS.COM-(www.godotless.com ) a reseller for Keywords LLC - total scam.
Then it was SIMPLY VOICE (www.simplyvoice.com),and (www.surfspeak.com)

Now, it's ONE TOP FIRM (www.onetopfirm.com)-LOCATED IN Orange county, Ca. and Portal RESPONSE TECHNOLOGY,(www.toppg1.com) Located in Glendale, Ca. The two firms operating, with the same graphics on their site, same scam, same sales pitch
They claim two have two toolbars- MYSPACE Guardian Toolbar (which MYSPACE knows nothing about! And is going after them for trademark infringement, they claim they have millions of downloads, when the TRUTH is (According to Downloads.com they only have a total of 1900 downloads and 1100 for their ridiculous BizformBar, probably from their salespeople peddling this scum ware!!~!

The managing directors are cheap telemarketers who boast millions of users and some connection to large firms that have never heard of this spy ware and certainly would not participate in such a scam. Numerous lawsuits and complaints have been lodged against all these firms. They are known to go after Real Estate Agents, whom have little knowledge of advertising on the internet run this scam on them

They are violating trademarks and misrepresenting that the toolbars that they offer are somehow associated with large firms. The fact is - they added a piece of spy ware and ad ware to toolbars that contain the name of large companies to dupe unwitting business owners to waste their dollars.

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[YouCannotFoolMe]

Yep, I've come across these guys. They claim some 10 million downloads of the "MySpace Guardian". The guy I heard of that works there, some guy named Warren, is a master b.s. artist.

I would love to know how many people have gotten sucked in and if anyone actually saw increased traffic.

[homesnland68]

I signed up with go dotless a few years back and i got taken for a fool. I spent alot of money and didn't get any results what so ever. But i did however sign up with One top firm and i did see alot of traffic to my website and got a few new clients. I don't think those companies are owned by the same people. I know that One top firm worked for me, and my parter works with a similar company called CPS and we are both getting leads.
I would however like to know myspace guardians connection with myspace, i know of alot of people that have these toolbars, i'm just wondering how much advertising CPS is doing to promote it.

[YouCannotFoolMe]

I signed up with go dotless a few years back and i got taken for a fool. I spent alot of money and didn't get any results what so ever. But i did however sign up with One top firm and i did see alot of traffic to my website and got a few new clients. I don't think those companies are owned by the same people. I know that One top firm worked for me, and my parter works with a similar company called CPS and we are both getting leads.
I would however like to know myspace guardians connection with myspace, i know of alot of people that have these toolbars, i'm just wondering how much advertising CPS is doing to promote it.

It's hard to say what is owned by whom. You have to do some digging. For example, entering Portal Response Technology and Simply Voice at bbbsouthland.org (the better business bureau) give you the same company.

You'll also note that the addresses on file for those firms are exactly the same, as it is for SurfSpeak.

One Top Firm and Portal Response are the same, as their URLs take you to the same page and employee Emails go to the same IP.

At the CA Sec. of State website, you'll find Cyberphrases was in Westlake Village but their Agent for Service of Process resigned, which you rarely see.

Godotless was based in Orange, and the Agent was a company called CSC which is the same agent for One Top FIrm (not unusual, as these incorporation services handle many different corps).

PBH, LLC, the apparent owner of the MySpace Guardian is based in Newport Beach, CA. IP Marketing is also involved, and these are the companies owned by Charles Lloyd. Thus, we have a direct link from Charles Lloyd to PBH to MySpace Guardian, which is being propagated by POrtal Response = SurfSpeak = One Top Firm.

Is Charles Lloyd the same Charles G. Lloyd mentioned here:

http://www.ftc.gov/os/2003/03/meddataamdcmp.pdf

Well, Healthcare Claims Network was, like all of the above companies located in Southern California. And their Agent? CSC. A coincidence here and there is one thing. But they are starting to pile up, no?

So there is some definitive information that indicates that many of these companies are all the same, overseen by what may very well be someone who's been in trouble with the FTC and ran at least one shady operation.

People who run one shady op develop a reputation and a pattern of behavior. They move on to other scams.

Who is CPS? WHat does it stand for? Are they the same?

One thing is certain about this keyword-toolbar business model. If you ask questions and don't get answers, you can bet the other side knows they are doing something wrong.

If they claim "`10 million toolbars", I"d like to see some proof of that number.
If they guarantee a certain number of visitors, you better have some way of verifitying what visitors you get, what IP address they visited from, and how long they stayed.
And you should have some way of being able to determine if your business directly benefits from the traffic -- that purchases came from someone who visited as a result of this toolbar.

ANd of course, when you see posts discussing any of these companies, esp. Portal Response, some company rep inevitably appears to defend the product. Watch what happens, though, if you ask them about the info presented here.

Finally, ask yourself this -- why is it that a legitimate company is doing business under multiple names....and that some have a pathetic, hard to get F rating from the Better Business Bureau!!!!

EDIT: Since posting this, they have managed to change some of BBB information linking the companies.

[YouCannotFoolMe]

Sorry, forgot to answer your question!

the myspaceguardian toolbar makes certain claims about how it interfaces with MySpace, which I can neither confirm nor deny as actually working. They claim you can do a search that brings up photos and other data about registered sex offenders in the area that you search, and that this info is provided for free. ON the other hand, you can also get this info for free at the FBI's website.

I highly doubt, but cannot confirm, that MySpace has sanctioned or approved of the product, or if they are even aware of it. In fact, there may very well be trademark infringement issues.

My opinion, which applies to this entire post and all posts I make, is that Portal Response is attempting to legitimize their toolbar. In this way, they can use it as a trojan horse to get advertisers to buy the keywords. As long as they truthfully represent how many downloads of the toolbar there have been (they claim 10 million, make of that what you will), and do not manipulate the number of hits, then I would say in my unprofiessional opinion that it's legit.

It doesn't change the fact, however, that Charles Lloyd appears to run the company and has either permitted Portal Response to resell the product, or Portal is just another front for his operation.

I'd love to find out.

[homesnland68]

Well that all seems quite scary but i still do not feel like i got scammed at all. I paid $2500 to one top firm and my partner spent almost $8,000 with cps and we are both in fact getting leads of off the banner advertisments. I'm basing my judgement off of two things, the traffic logs they gave me, and the fact that on the phone when i ask my clients where they found me, alot of them saw off of the banner ad.
I don't know if CPS and One top firm are related, but i do know that i've never heard of any of those other companies. I did ask them to verify that the myspace guardian toolbar had millions of downloads and they took me to microsofts website where i was shown that they got 4 out of 5 stars. It's scary hearing about all of these scams and if i ever hear from any of those other companies, i'll watch out.

[YouCannotFoolMe]

What does CPS stand for?

Call PRT back and ask for definitive data showing you how many toolbars have been downloaded. If they won't answer, ask them how they can claim 10 million if they can't even support it to their clients.

Call the clients you've gotten so far and when they say they've seen the banner ad, ask if they have either the MySpace Guardian toolbar or bizform toolbar.

[homesnland68]

I dont know what PRT is, therefore i cannot call them. However when i asked my clients where they found me, they said from the banner. I have asked them before what they think of those toolbars and where they found them, since i also have a link to the myspace guardian on my website. They said they got it from windows marketplace which to my knowledge is the website that people go to when they get a new computer to download possible upgrades. I know i did not get scammed, and my partner that went with CPS is doing even better then i am..that's my next investment..I hope that all is well and if your ever out in the Houston area, we can sit down and go over figures and strategy. Maybe i am doing something you're not? Good luck.

[YouCannotFoolMe]

PRT and one top firm are the same. If you have contact info for one top firm, you have it for PRT.

so why not call one top firm, and ask how they know they have 10 million gazillion downloads?

What is CPS?????

[homesnland68]

i did verify the 10 million downloads, i went to microsofts website, apparently they are affiliates with them because they're featured on microsofts page. 10 million, 15 million, or 100 million, it doesn't matter to me, as long as they keep helping me sell homes, i'm happy. I've gotten enough clients from them to drop all of my google adword campaignes. My partner kept his, but then again...he can afford it. 3 home sales in 2 months from CPS..I'm soon to sign up with them as well, hopfully i can recapture the magic. Think about it, i was paying around 3 dollars a click on google adwords and now i'm paying way less per click for the same amount of leads..I think google needs to lower their price or companies like one top firm and cps are going to take alot of their business away. I'm not sure what cps stands for, i'd have to look back in my partners paper work. The contact we have for them is Robert at (714)453-4258. Hope all is well.