My 301 Disaster

[swirt]

I really would like to try using the bargaincat.net as the main domain for a few months and then try the dot com again later. Is there any reason I shouldn't?

It is more likely the aliasing that caused the trouble you are in now. I would do a full 301 of all pages on all your domains to all pages of bargaincat.com. As you say all of these sites are on the same server/ip so there is no reason for one to be better than the other. Do all the cleanup and submit a reinclusion request.

[blitzen]

<snip>You're currently on the same shared hosting as 495 other websites, including some similar to yours, adult sites, .info sites, etc.
<snip>
Oh, and what are you putting up syndicated articles for? They don't appear to be related to coupons, discounts, etc... just unrelated spammy article content to make it look like you add content to the website. Google is smart enough to see that.

(1) We're on shared hosting with adult sites and haven't seen a problem with Google [until Big Daddy but we're recovering]. With the volume of adult sites, I don't understand how you can be on a shared host with no adult sites.

What's wrong with .info sites?

(2) If your syndicated articles use javascript and if SE's don't pay attention to javascript content, then I don't understand why syndication can be considered spammy.

Quick Question: For those syndications that use aspx, rss, xml, will G be able to index those articles and consider them spammy or duplicate content?

[glinted]

swirt, I think it could be the best idea so I will try your idea...

So I will now place all the bargaincat extensions back on the same server ( i moved the extra ones to another one) and I will do a full site redirect like I have done with the old domain (discountsaver.net) to bargaincat.com on all 3 of them. I will then cleanup any non seo friendly things I can find plus I will follow the ideas you mentioned in the previous post. I will take down all articles that are not related to my sites theme. Then I will submit a reinclusion request (I'm not sure how this is done but it should be easy enough to find out how I guess)

I will do this all tommorow as it's late here now.

If anyone else has anything to add in the time been it is very welcome...

blitzen, I'm unsure how much Google cares about these things too? I have asked my current host to follow up my requests for a Private VPS or my own IP's though just to be on the safe side which can't hurt.

As for .info doamins, I would also like to know what was meant about them too as I own quite a few info's?

Are they considered spam etc? I doubt it as I have seen info's in the first pages of Google before.

If anyone can shed some light on this it would be great..

[swirt]

...Then I will submit a reinclusion request (I'm not sure how this is done but it should be easy enough to find out how I guess)

http://www.google.com/support/webmas...y?answer=35843

[SemAdvance]

Hi

You probably need a bit more patience.

Google does not make major changes but every three months, and since you started in January... you are looking at March (now) April before seeing results from those changes.

There really is a lot of bad advice spread in forums and all these posts telling you to make more changes will only result in a complete foul up of things.

For example bad information on .info sites

Search Google.com for richest women

# 1 site month after month is

www.richestwomen.info

It is ranked above forbes.com

And makes me over $100.00 a month from Adsense

and that is just one site ;->


Edit

http://www.bargaincat.com/
Googlebot last successfully accessed your home page on Mar 12, 2007.

Potential indexing problems:
We do not know about all the pages of your site. You can submit a Sitemap to tell us more about your site.

Again lots of bad information can be put to rest with some patience.....hope you haven't made changes that were recommended....

Peace

[swirt]

Google does not make major changes but every three months, and since you started in January... you are looking at March (now) April before seeing results from those changes.

That is simply not true. Google makes continuous updates of its index. The days of the Google dance are long gone. The only thing that happens on the 3-4 month scales are ToolbarPR updates and displayed blacklink updates and those are just displays, they figure into the algo immediately (not having to wait for the update). I have never seen a site show incoming links with link: and no pages indexed with site: unless either of two things happened:
1) Sombody blocked the entire site with robots.txt / meta robot directive (not the case here, I already checked).
2) Google banned the site.

Google simply does not take 3 months to index the home page of a site with incoming links. It may take months (or days) to drill down to deeper pages, but not the home page.

The site also has pages cached (but not indexed)in Google which indicates it is not a spidering problem. The presence of a cache and not an index is also a strong indicator of a ban.
http://72.14.209.104/search?sourceid...olate%2BSource

I'm am not sure of where you pulled this quote from

Quote:
http://www.bargaincat.com/
Googlebot last successfully accessed your home page on Mar 12, 2007.

Potential indexing problems:
We do not know about all the pages of your site. You can submit a Sitemap to tell us more about your site.

but the advice of submitting a sitemap will not solve the problem. Spidering is not an issue.

Your advice of ignoring the whole .info concern is a good one. That is not an issue.

And patience is often good advice with seo, but sitting around for another month on this particular example is more likely to achieve more of the same...nothing. The fact is redirecting a domain correctly should rarely take more than a few days for the home page and a week or two for deeper pages. 3 months, link: but no site:, cache: but no site: indicate a problem that time alone will not solve.

[Webnauts]

I think you might would like to read this: http://news.stepforth.com/blog/2007/...ng-domains.php