Becoming a Server

[Islands]

As a follow to what Steve said, even if considering a cable connection, check the provider policy; some don't allow you to run a server with their low end service and will require you to upgrade to a more expensive service.

Mel

[samjones]

hi,

im trying to set up my own server. the problem is its on a network connecting to a broadband cable internet connection via a router and all the pc's on the network have the same ip (x.x.41.221)
i need the server to have a unique ip so i can type in the ip and get the servers home page.

anyone know how to give the server a unique ip?

pc is up to spec and running windows xp with ISS for now, windows 2000/2003 if i manage to sort this out.

[Islands]

SamJones

You need to contact your cable company. Chances are they will wnat more money and they may not allow a server connection.

[adposter]

hi,

im trying to set up my own server. the problem is its on a network connecting to a broadband cable internet connection via a router and all the pc's on the network have the same ip (x.x.41.221)
i need the server to have a unique ip so i can type in the ip and get the servers home page.

anyone know how to give the server a unique ip?

pc is up to spec and running windows xp with ISS for now, windows 2000/2003 if i manage to sort this out.

Setting up your own webserver on a multiple machine using one IP and accessing via the IP only is just as easy using Windows 2000, provided you have not registered a Domain Name, if you have a domain name then that's another separate issue which I can't discuss here. Its easy to access your page via your static IP. To setup your web page.

1.)Just open your IIS by clicking. Start > Programs > Administrative Tools > Internet Services Manager.
2.)If you have not created a new website node on IIS. You can do that by right-clicking the server node on your IIS MMC, then click new website. Follow the step by step wizard.
3.) Once you've pointed the directory where your website is. All you have to do is just type the router IP address of that particular machine where the web pages are. Once everything is done. Test it by typing your STATIC IP address, your router then will direct you to the machine where the web page is located. Make sure that you open port 80 on your router and firewall software (if you have one) or else it will never work.

Setting up your own webserver is very easy. You just need the proper tools and the right amount of bandwidth to serve pages, and a fast computer, i mean super fast especially for Dynamic CGI intense pages.

Easy as 1,2,3! You won't waste your time picking your nose about it...*chukles*

Tata! =0)
Jon

[Ann Bee]

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Ann

[samjones]

hi,

im trying to set up my own server. the problem is its on a network connecting to a broadband cable internet connection via a router and all the pc's on the network have the same ip (x.x.41.221)
i need the server to have a unique ip so i can type in the ip and get the servers home page.

anyone know how to give the server a unique ip?

pc is up to spec and running windows xp with ISS for now, windows 2000/2003 if i manage to sort this out.

Setting up your own webserver on a multiple machine using one IP and accessing via the IP only is just as easy using Windows 2000, provided you have not registered a Domain Name, if you have a domain name then that's another separate issue which I can't discuss here. Its easy to access your page via your static IP. To setup your web page.

1.)Just open your IIS by clicking. Start > Programs > Administrative Tools > Internet Services Manager.
2.)If you have not created a new website node on IIS. You can do that by right-clicking the server node on your IIS MMC, then click new website. Follow the step by step wizard.
3.) Once you've pointed the directory where your website is. All you have to do is just type the router IP address of that particular machine where the web pages are. Once everything is done. Test it by typing your STATIC IP address, your router then will direct you to the machine where the web page is located. Make sure that you open port 80 on your router and firewall software (if you have one) or else it will never work.

Setting up your own webserver is very easy. You just need the proper tools and the right amount of bandwidth to serve pages, and a fast computer, i mean super fast especially for Dynamic CGI intense pages.

Easy as 1,2,3! You won't waste your time picking your nose about it...*chukles*

Tata! =0)
Jon

ok, sounds great... but how do i set up a static ip address, i've changed the servers ip address for a start (screen shot below of tc/pip settings). i have a no-ip.com account (http://samjones.no-ip.com/) redirecting to my ip address (pictured below also)

still isnt working.. help?

sj

p.s - sorry about the images, i thought it might help speed this along

[adposter]

ok, sounds great... but how do i set up a static ip address, i've changed the servers ip address for a start (screen shot below of tc/pip settings). i have a no-ip.com account (http://samjones.no-ip.com/) redirecting to my ip address (pictured below also)

still isnt working.. help?

sj

You need to talk to your ISP to provide you with a static IP.

Then follow these brief steps.

1.) That section you showed should not even be filled up. Leave it alone. Tick the Obtain address automatically.

2.) Once you have the static IP from your ISP, configure your router to open up port 80. This will setup a port forwarding to your system. Whenever it calls the static IP it will then be forwarded to your computer with the router's IP address. I don't know what kind of router you have but if you have LinkSys, it's easy to configure.

3.) If you have IIS, type in the router's IP address and the port instead of the static IP. You're now ready to accept any incoming traffic to your system via the router.


Simple.

Jon

[southplatte]

samjones & adposter:

One thing to keep in mind and maybe for clarification for others reading: Your server machine as shown in the tcp/ip configuration is using static IP that is private, so the router is performing some form of NAT, that is it is taking the multipe private IPs on the inside network and translating them to one public IP on the outside of the router.

The issue comes into play, just by opening port 80, the router will not automatically forward the http requests to that particular IP (192.168.0.121) unless it is setup to forward all port 80 requests to that machine. some routers may automatically search the internal network for one that has port 80 accessible, so it may not be an issue...just thought I would share.

Some more info: samjones.no-ip.com is most likely pointing to the IP that your ISP assigns you, which is going to be the ip of the cable/dsl router or machine that the internet connection is directly hooked up to. So, if your router gets a request to port 80 great, but then it doesn't know where to send it from there even though you have a server setup on the internal network.

The no-ip I believe is a service allowing the dns to point to your dynamic IP from your isp, so you shouldn't have any worries there.

If you would like, I can draw up a small diagram to visually show how the connections should be, the data flow of traffic, and where/when the forwards/redirects happen. Just reply or pm to let me know.

This is how I setup a web server for a class last year, we had a broadband connection to the internet, a cisco router, a cisco firewall, and a network of about 30 computers, one of which was a www, and one a ftp. The router had the appropriate ports open, but had to be setup to forward those port requests to the appropriate IPs on the inside network.

Also, to the original poster of the thread, if you have the need for any more information, let me know and i will be glad to help out.

[7thDsites]

Hi all,

I've had a hosting business for a couple of years, and I would say all in all it's been great.
Just last month however legal matters came to light which caught us with our pants down... and needless to say we had a crash course in copyright law...

As with all other hosting companies we have a Terms of Service outlining the do's and don'ts (more so don'ts) and to the best of my knowledge this covered us... I was wrong.
One of the first premises of our TOS regards the use of copy written materials

Client Content.
Client agrees that it will not distribute, electronically transmit or display any materials supplied by Client - or through Client by a third party - to any xxxxxx.com Web Hosting server in connection with Client's use of the Services which:
Infringe on any intellectual property rights (e.g., copyright, trademark, patent or other proprietary rights) of xxxxxx.com Web Hosting or any third party;
- violate any provincial, state, federal or foreign laws or regulations;
- Blah, blah, blah...

We assumed that this would suffice as far as legal matters went and keep us clear in cases of violation... that was until we were served legal papers.

We’re good now, but it turns out that unless you specifically file with the US Copyright office that you are a service provider and assign a person who can receive notice of violations of copyright law you indeed are not covered! Because we did not do this; we are faced with being charged in copyright violation because someone that we were hosting had stolen and used the copy written work of another.

Obviously if you are hosting others sites you must assume that the material they are using on their site is there’s, and ultimately there’s not a whole lot you could do to verify it is anyway, until problems arise. But if you’re in the US and hosting without this paperwork filed with the copyright office it is construed that you knew the hostee was using stolen stuff, and since you are receiving payment for hosting it is construed that you are getting paid for the hostees using this stolen stuff.

Check out http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/ to get signed up and cover your butt!

We also found a great deal of useful info here.. http://www.ivanhoffman.com/internet.html

best to you!

john

[adposter]

Hi all,

As with all other hosting companies we have a Terms of Service outlining the do's and don'ts (more so don'ts) and to the best of my knowledge this covered us....

john

Hi John,

The TOS is most important before running your own server. If the ISP says DON't, then you better follow because it will affect your account. Better yet, some ISP block the ports that will allow you to publish over the internet. In so doing, they'll ask you to sign-up for a business account which will cost you around $140+/month.

Jon