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Thread: Site always gets the same search result position - No Joke

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    Site always gets the same search result position - No Joke

    One of our sites printcountry.com always rank 31st on most of the major keyword search results on Google (including the keyword "printcountry") which I think is very odd. Some keywords you can try (and most are very competitive) "printer ink", "epson ink", "epson printer ink", "discount cartridge" and I can keep adding on this list.

    It is no JOKE, I can not understand why. Did some thing at Google fixed our position, but can not understand it for the life of me. Or is it possible that this happens on my browser only.

    Please help me shed some light on this. Am I going crazy?

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    Google Filter max. my position at SERP #31, possible?

    Per suggestion, when I tried to search "Printer Cartridges & Epson Printer Ink from PrintCountry" (which is the pages title) on Google, I still get the result #31st. I am convinced that there is something fishy going on here and I am not crazy.

    Is it possible that there is some form of light penalization on Google that max. your SERP at 31st position?

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    Spamming?

    The link http://www.printcountry.com has a doorway farm. The following links probably point to keyword-rich auto-generated pages.
    Links:
    Printer Ink Cartridges - Inkjet Printer Cartridges - Discount Printer Ink Cartridges - Cheap Printer Ink - Printer Ink Refill - Printer Toner Cartridge - Laser Printer Toner -

    The link http://www.usnavysealstore.com has a list of terms. The following text contains mainly a list of generic terms rather than a natural phrase. Naturalness value is only 34.44%

    Text: at us navy seals store, we are proud to offer a wide variety of navy seals merchandise and gear including t-shirts, sweatshirts, seals workout, fitness and training books and dvds, navy seals luminox dive watches, gear, gifts, patches, pins and more.

    Spamming?

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    Dear Webnuts. I am not sure I understand you (or what this has to do with site being stuck at 31st position) What do you mean a "doorway farm" in your statement "The link http://www.printcountry.com has a doorway farm. The following links probably point to keyword-rich auto-generated pagesand what do you mean probably auto-generated pages. Only thing you can do and click and see that there are not auto generated spamming but real written content with keywords in mind.

    About the USNavysealstore.com, that page has a list of product links. So I am not sure about your naturaliness percentage but still not making sense. So is that mean http://directory.webnauts.net/ is getting a high naturalness value.

    Here I am trying to understand why I would be 31st on all these different keywords:

    epson ink cartridges - 31
    canon ink cartridges - 31
    printcountry - 31
    print country - 31
    inkjet cartridges - 31

    The point is, even if I am spamming (WHICH I DONT THINK I AM, but of course everybody has a different definition and that is a point of many other threads), why would I be 31st ALWAYS. Not 43, 88, or out of the index but 31st?

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    I just did a quick test with this tool: http://tool.motoricerca.info/spam-detector/

    Might need human review though. Check that out if you want.

    I am very busy at the moment, but I will get back to your issue when I can.

    I will ask Incrediblehelp to have a look too.

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    Thanks, but I guess that tool did not work for this case. Those are real pages.

    About the other issue, I am convinced the cutoff point of some sort. It might be a duplicate content issue (due a mistake on our end between multiple domains that we did not do 302). I also had this thread where I asked the same question, I think the response make sense:

    http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/...ad.php?t=14344

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    Not really.. I see you at 27 in Google with this URL:
    http://www.printcountry.com/canonpri...cartridges.asp

    Is that not your site?
    E. Armand

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    Can you please tell me the keyword term that you have used?

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    no problem, I used printcountry. I was actually amazed that you are so low (27) for your own domain word. Who is on top? Are those your affiliates?
    E. Armand

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    I got you at 41 for these 2 keywords:

    Epson ink cartridges
    Canon ink cartridges

    and you might be falling further.

    Google is cracking down more on these types of pages and the individual credit a SE assess to page is going to count more in the future than just the credit the main domain has earned. Ok what the hell does that mean Jaan?

    Well Google is getting better at judging pages of websites separately and accessing value to each instead of seeing a high PR domain and giving the "green light" so to speak at the pages and directories underneath.

    You need better content on these 2 pages. I wouldn't consider these doorways as has been suggested above. I understand what your trying to do here, but the bottomline is Google doesn't. I know you want to link out to each individual product for each ink cartridge brand and that is fine, but your content is "cookie cutter" on these pages:

    http://www.printcountry.com/epsonpri...cartridges.asp
    http://www.printcountry.com/canonpri...cartridges.asp

    Your basically cutting and pasting the different brand name in for the same content. Write some great unique content, get some product reviews in there. Look at your competitors in the top ten, what the heck are they doing that you are not?

    Secondly you need better and much more relevant links to these pages instead of just to your main domain. Google is looking at this much more now, since Jagger 1-2-3. Getting links from relevant websites to Canon category page would be great and link less to your home page if the link is more relevant to Canon.

    Lastly rankings are ever changing. Don't get hung up on them.

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