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Thread: Site always gets the same search result position - No Joke

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    I still see us #31 for that keyword. I wonder if we are working on different datacenter

    I know we are so low on our own domain name, and that is actually the reason I think there is definetly a problem somewhere. (And I am trying to understand the problem for at least 6 months and still cannot come up with something) How can we rank same for a very competitive term and our own name (which is not very competitive).

    The other links come before us are either our links, press release stuff and few affiliates.

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    I'm sure it has a lot to do with duplicate content. try searching for unique strings from your site and see what you get.

    I used (quotes) "Welcome to Your Discount Printer Ink Store" and got 27 results.

    I tried other searchs and found that your "other" site (printecartridges.com) comes up first or near the top. For example, I searched for (no quotes) "printcountry remanufactured environmentally conscious" and got 1-5 of 21 results with duplicates omitted. Guess what? Printecartiges.com shows up in #1.

    Click on the link to show duplicates and now PrintCountry shows up on top with the most of the 132 results. All have different "?ref=" codes. I also see printeink.com and print-country.com in the results.

    I think you really need to manage your redirects and duplicate content first, and then see if you can show up earlier in the listings. I'm sure the penalty of position 31 is a direct result.

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    I couldn't have said it better! However, I did not want to appear "Spammy" or as trying to promote inbound links throw WPW, but Incrediblehelp nailed it with this one...

    Secondly you need better and much more relevant links to these pages instead of just to your main domain. Google is looking at this much more now, since Jagger 1-2-3. Getting links from relevant websites to Canon category page would be great and link less to your home page if the link is more relevant to Canon.
    Get quality, relevant inbound links that not only point to your home page, but that also point to your major category pages, such as Brand name pages.

    You'd be surprised how quickly you move up from 31 or whatever position you are stuck in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by incrediblehelp
    I got you at 41 for these 2 keywords:

    Epson ink cartridges
    Canon ink cartridges

    and you might be falling further.

    Google is cracking down more on these types of pages and the individual credit a SE assess to page is going to count more in the future than just the credit the main domain has earned. Ok what the hell does that mean Jaan?

    Well Google is getting better at judging pages of websites separately and accessing value to each instead of seeing a high PR domain and giving the "green light" so to speak at the pages and directories underneath.

    You need better content on these 2 pages. I wouldn't consider these doorways as has been suggested above. I understand what your trying to do here, but the bottomline is Google doesn't. I know you want to link out to each individual product for each ink cartridge brand and that is fine, but your content is "cookie cutter" on these pages:

    http://www.printcountry.com/epsonpri...cartridges.asp
    http://www.printcountry.com/canonpri...cartridges.asp

    Your basically cutting and pasting the different brand name in for the same content. Write some great unique content, get some product reviews in there. Look at your competitors in the top ten, what the heck are they doing that you are not?

    Secondly you need better and much more relevant links to these pages instead of just to your main domain. Google is looking at this much more now, since Jagger 1-2-3. Getting links from relevant websites to Canon category page would be great and link less to your home page if the link is more relevant to Canon.

    Lastly rankings are ever changing. Don't get hung up on them.
    Better advice could not be given. Pay attention to what Jaan said here, especially "Write some great unique content, get some product reviews in there"

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    I checked with the keyword "printcountry" with google.de and I found you this http://www.printcountry.com/canonpri...cartridges.asp at position 31.

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    Thanks Brad.

    Incrediblehelp I got your points and will make changes on those pages but I don't think this getting the same result is directly related with the quality of content or links (indirectly of course related). Issue here is not ranking good or bad, but (at least on my browser) I keep getting the same SERP for quite a few search terms, which suggests there is probably a cap for my site in Google. And not managing this duplicate content issue is probably the key.

    I think like what Brad mentioned, we are getting the domains (which are not even domains, but supposed to be redirect for typein URL traffic like printeink.com) that are not real in the search results (and most cases performing better than the real site).

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    I ran into this problem a few years ago when a client ranked 21st for all terms.

    Turns out my seo ranking software needed a paid update I did not know about.

    Once I paid for the update...clients positions returned to normallcy...

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    I think many of the posts have hit the mark but missed the question. Arius was asking why the site would be listed at #31 for all terms. Surely there would be some variation in the ranking depending which search term was used. I can confirm that the site is listed at #31 for "printcountry" "Epson ink cartridges", "Canon ink cartridges" This is very strange and it seems to me to be a penalty by Google which then points toward the other answers here. The cookie cutter content will get the pages ranked lower or perhaps not at all. (but why #31 always???)
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    EditFast your probably right, but lets not call it a penalty, but rather a ceiling. It is strange that the website is ranking the same for all the terms, but I think the reason it is doing this has been described above adequately. Oonce the changes are made I bet this ceiling is removed.

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    Yes Editfast, that is the issue here. So I am convinced that some sort of ceiling exist, but probably the reason is not becuase of just not soo good content but more serious duplicate content issue between few domains that were supposed to be 302 having the same content indexed. I am sure about that since the site actually changed couple months ago and the issue existed on the old site that has different content (but the other domains still existed then).

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