In this thread, ADAM Web Design made this statement = "... and like most true SEO-types they leech PR from their own customers".
As an SEO, I was deeply offended by it because I know it to be totally untrue, and I kinda took the thread off-topic.
Although Adam refused to say that he was wrong, he did modify his statement twice. The first modification was to say that he wasn't refering to SEOs as such, but to people who offer seo services. Of course, that includes all SEOs, so it didn't help one bit. The second was to try and change focus by admitting that it's more common with website designers than with people who offer seo services. Along with the second modification, he reduced the charge to, "it still occurs and it occurs on a wide scale", but even that is very offensive to SEOs.
In the process he offered 3 examples where SEOs had placed links on client sites - that's assuming that they were actually client sites, and that's not a gimme. The 3 examples were meant to prove that most people who offer seo services leach PageRank from their clients' sites. Of course, they didn't prove any such thing. They merely showed that it does happen occassionally
Then the thread was locked for some strange reason. Yes, it had gone off-topic, but there were no flames in it.
But the question has been raised. Do most people who offer seo services leach PageRank from their clients' sites or not? Or does it happen on a wide scale?
The answer is obviously no. The way to prove it? Do any search you like in any search engine you like, and the chances are that the top pages have been SEOed to get there. Now look at all of the top pages - say the top 10 - and try to find the SEOs' links in them. They are not there! Keep on searching and checking the top 10 pages - you may find an occassional SEO's link, because a few people do put their links in the pages, but you will never find that most of the top ranked SEOed pages contain PR-leaching links to the SEOs' sites, and you will never find that the practise is "on a wide scale".
Now, Adam. The last thing you wrote was "I know I'm right. Most people reading this would know I'm right. I came up with a few examples to show I'm right, and could come up with the "mountain" if I wanted to. You may think you are right, but I've no doubt that most people would think you are wrong - and I know damned well that you are wrong. Your few examples showed nothing except that there are a few examples, but it was a far cry from your claim, so, if you are so sure that you are right, let's continue.