Good tips for site traffic

[cf05]

thank you for all your advices. I have done some of what you said. The most interesting area is to "build quality links from relevant sites." I haven't completly understand it. Need more time to begin.

[taxivantha]

STOP!!!

What appears to work is build the best site you can, plan on spending an entire year doing so and also plan on getting no results (from Google) at all for atleast a year.

That is how I started my website. It was online for more than a year while I was creating it contents, while my homepage title read "Under construction". I guess I should not have created the site online but rather have saved the money for a web host and domain name until the contents was ready. -Then, on the other hand, from what I understood from you guys is that the age of the domain name also counts in the rankigs, so it may not have been such a bad idea after all.

Link building on new sights can sandbox you to hell yes?

Submit to dmoz and get a few related links if you can, then lay off the damn "link building"! If sell "dog donuts" do not exchange links with a site about "viagra".

-Aaron

After I removed the Under Construction status and submitted my site to Google, MSN and a few other search engines, I did exactly what you advised to cf05, and looked for relevant links, rather than go for quantity. The result was one or two searches per day to reach my site from google and a few per week from MSN.

Relevant links, I mean the real relevant ones are difficult to come by, when your niche is as small as mine. For more than 6 months, my Google PR remained on 0. I attributed that to the sandbox, until you guys enlightened me, and I understood that PR has nothing to do with the sandbox. Apparently, I was never sandboxed (or sandbagged) at all, since people did find me through google.

So, after 6 months, I still had to get that PR. I was becomming hopeless and thought that I got the concept of SEO all wrong. Then I discovered a site that listed websites that were also looking for reciprocal links and after exchanging links with a couple of sites that had no relevancy to my subject at all, I selected travel websites to have some relevancy. It was not the relevancy I had been looking for, but I hoped Google's algorithm would not see it that way.

Within one week, I got my PR4 for my home page and a PR2 for all pages that had a link to my home page - including the reciprocal link page. I cannot say this proves the intelligence of the algorithm, but it is nice for those sites that exchanged links while I still had PR0.

So, when you advise not to go for reciprocal links, my feeling is that this is wrong. Go for some 40-50 links. My bet is, you will get your PR faster.

Once I had that PR, my popularity started growing in the search engines. First thing I found out was that I was getting #1 positions in MSN. That may have been unrelated to the Google PR, it probably is the consequence of my blogs - comments on current news issues. From what I understand, this practice ranks you much better in MSN than in the other SEs.

Google also started giving me better positions, probably due to the fact that I listed myself (unpaid) in their travel directory. Searches I get from them seem mostly to be related to photographs.

This happened a few weeks ago, and now, Google started catching up. instead od 1 or 2 searches per day, Google sends me now 10-15 searches per day. The problem I have is that those searches are seldom related to the keywords I optmised for. Most searches are one-time phrases. The only repeated searches come from MSN, for rather general terms like "Phnom Penh" (which is the name of Cambodia's capital).

What I ask myself is where I go from here. I have been reading this forum daily and tried to implement the advice I read here. I appologise for not participating too much, but I feared that there is little a newcomer like me can teach you and I did not want to post, just for the fact of having my link published. There's no relevancy to my site in WPW forum anyway, I'm only here to learn at this point. Maybe later, when I know all the answers, might I express my opinions.

I hope that cf05 may learn something from my experience and I would also like hear some advise from the experts on the next steps to optimise my website, now that I have come so far.

[khurramali]

Thanks for sharing your experience "taxivantha"

SEO takes a lot of time and is expensive in terms of the time your spend on it.

You should be willing to spend at least 1 hour each day, writing content, building links, checking competition and other SEO stuff daily, and you should see some light at the end of the tunnel.

First things first, Read all you can about SEO, if you plan to do it yourself. And discuss things here that are not clear or if there is any confusion.

[cf05]

Thank you, taxivantha. You did a lot of work on your site. But I don't see your site link to any Reciprocal sites. I went to http://www.arclid.com/linkpartners.php, and didn't know how it work. SEO is so hard to implement

[taxivantha]

In order to remain on good terms with the moderator and not go to much off-topic, I have posted my reply in the reciprocal links forum of WPW.

[MtraX]

Hi

I totally forgot about this thread ;-) Aaron, I wasn't implying doing quickfix linkbuilding, maybe I should have made myself clear for a newbie! I was talking all about natural requests to relevant sites over at least a period of 6 months to a year. Actually I'm not really a fan of having link pages on sites, allthough I guess one must give everything a try for testing purposes.

DMOZ is definately a good place to start.

MtraX

[scarytruth]

It looks like you took a Dreamweaver template and just added text to it. It definitely needs work done to it.

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[freelancemom]

You know, it's a bit of a concern to think that a large amount of links quickly could sandbox you. I'm not sure I completely believe it.

Businesses must do media blitzes from time to time or in some way make the news. This is going to naturally result in linking.

Or what if a company starts an affiliate program? They will suddenly receive thousands of inbound links that weren't there previously.

I'm sure google has thought of these instances also...

:)

Lori

[wwwbug]

Hi


If you're good at writing copy, write some articles and submit them to goarticles.com or other article syndication sites, with a short bio and link back to your website. That's a nice way of building one way links.

hi,does it matter to copy half of an article with the author links and my links in it ?

[random2004]

What appears to work is build the best site you can, plan on spending an entire year doing so and also plan on getting no results (from Google) at all for atleast a year.

Now this sounds like fun, doesn't it? The system is screwed up. There has to be a better way to get traffic and make money. If you're gonna have to sit a year waiting for some potential traffic to happen, forget it. Nobody can run a business this way and prosper.

Ideal:

1. Build an optimized site.
2. Submit it
3. Get excellent ranking
4. Get loads of traffic
5. Make tons of sales
6. Wake Up! You were dreaming!