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    New Google Patent May Be Bad News For Small News

    Google’s never ending search for providing a quality end user experience has culminated into a bullet with patent number WO 2005/029368 imprinted across the side. Unfortunately for smaller news services, the bullet may strike the heart of aspiring upstarts—a casualty of Google’s friendly fire.

    Of course, it will all depend on how heavily certain things are weighed in the news algorithm technology Google has just sealed in the patent offices of the US and other countries. News giants like CNN and the New York Times will barely notice the decrease of air pressure in the blogosphere, and probably won’t mourn the impending loss of younger cousins vying for their thrones.

    The patent is aimed at increasing the quality of news delivered into search results, a noble effort to weed out inaccurate, biased, and disreputable sources. Until the implementation of the new algorithm, news is ranked according to relevance to the search word query and by the date (or timeliness) of the article. The source is not considered.

    The new technology will take several new things into account, continually measuring qualitative factors like how long the news source has been in existence, the number of stories published, the credibility of the source, average story length, number of stories with bylines, the size of the organization’s staff, circulation, number of global operations, number of links to stories from the source, and Web traffic to the site.

    Currently, typing in “George W. Bush” will bring up two sources at the top that probably lack many of the things the new algorithm will be looking for. At the top of the page is a satire site called “Unconfirmed Sources” and an editorial from “Guerrilla News Network.” So these aren’t really news sources, their entertainment and editorial sources.

    What concerns many is not so much the supposed increase in objectivity Google painstakingly aspires to create. It is the loss of sites such as the aforementioned from ranking, dropping them into obscurity so that they are difficult to find, read, and mull over. The filtering is taken out of the minds of the users and given into the hands of computer-generated objectivity. Many would rather that job be left to them, as Reuters and the Washington Post are easy enough to find.

    The European world is already leery of the far-reaching arms of Google information channeling. The next ten years will add $200 million dollars to the information indexing effort as Google digitizes some 15 million books from the most respected libraries in the US. The fears of “googlization” are becoming widespread as Europe mobilizes against the search engine by setting up their own literature database in fear of American cultural imperialism.

    This is not to say that Europe isn’t paranoid with misplaced anxiety. In all honesty, Google should be praised for their digitization and qualitative efforts and for setting the benchmark by which other search engines are measured. And Europe should have had their digitization effort going in spite of, rather than in response to Google’s efforts. All information indexing should be welcomed on the web.

    There will always be critics. Critics are the warts that come with power and fame. But its hard to not be at least a little bit worried about the underdogs, the upshoots, the legitimate news sources without thousands on staff, who haven’t been around for decades and have themselves comfortably imbedded into the establishment. You have to pine just a little bit for the voices that could be potentially lost in the fight for search engine credibility.
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    Critics are the warts that come with power and fame.
    Sure, as if power and fame means you´re always right. Critics would be more the voice of your concience.

    The filtering is taken out of the minds of the users
    That is a problem. Would you want to let a machine think for you? Do you know how to multiply 234 with 131? The calculator can do it for you, right? Not really a big issue as you still get to make your own decisions. But this fear that a company can decide for you what are good sources and what not,... difficult issue. Google should be really careful here. Not everybody is interested in the 100% accurate (and what is accurate anyway in this objective world), 100% serious news.

    Always difficult these objective issues,...
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    Google News Patent

    My thoughts

    This couldn't happen yesterday??

    They are taking steps to stop my google newsalerts from sending me garbage seo news, put out by the indian based sites which merely scrape the content of other sites and then release this as news.

    It will also stop the US based seo firms like Zunch and a few others... who feel that we need to know everytime one of their people goes to the bathroom

    Google News was becoming more of Google Diarrhea...

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    Thanks for the info, but Miller got one thing wrong

    As the editor of the Guerrilla News Network's web site, I appreciated the informative article by Jason Miller on Google's new search criteria. But he got one thing wrong: GNN is a news source, in addition to being an opinion and "entertainment" site. It's true we're best known for our library of original politically-charged short videos and documentaries, and our editorials, which now include a network of over 5000 bloggers. But we are also a news site. Because of our limited budget, we don't do a lot of reporting, but we have broken several major stories. See: http://www.gnn.tv/articles/761/Exclu...lected_in_2000. If Google wasn't picking up our stories, tens of thousands of people might not have heard about how Bush's former biographer says the president talked openly about invading Iraq back in 1999. The story broke right before the election, and was largely ignored by the mainstream media, even though it was penned by one of our most experienced award-winning correspondents. See his more recent update on the story here: http://www.gnn.tv/articles/1481/Why_George_Went_To_War

    More recently we covered a story that the AP and others just decided to cover: http://www.gnn.tv/articles/1475/The_..._AIDS_Research

    We'd appreciate a clarification.

    Anthony Lappe
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    Clarification Delivered

    Mr. Lappe

    Nevermind

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    Google News will probably remove my site, but so what...

    I'm a classic example of the type of news source that would be affected. I run URLwire, which I created when Jeff Bezos asked me to help him publicize the debut of Amazon.com. URLwire has now been around for close to ten years, but it's just me, and the "news" I produce is paid announcements of new web sites. If I'm honest with myself, URLwire site announcements are "advertorial", and I'm a "publicist for web content", not a journalist. While URLwire has received awards and been very profitable with 3 million readers and 35,000 sites linking to it, the reality is URLwire is not journalism, and my site announcements are not "news" to anyone except my member/subscribers. If Google News wants to purge URLwire from the news results, I can't argue with their logic. I'm thankful they included me in the first place, and as of today they still are:
    http://news.google.com/news?q=urlwir...r=&sa=N&tab=wn

    I'd rather my announcements be found in Google's main results anyway, rather than the news results, as my stats show my announcements get way more traffic via the regular google results than via the news results.

    One really simple soultion for Google to avoid the PR problems this might cause them is to simply provide a toggle
    on the news search where the user chooses either

    - All sources
    - Google filtered sources

    This would be so simple and solve things instantly. Of course, I guess then those people not making the cut into the filtered sources pool would still whine :)

    I'd welcome any comments. I've been around forever but always as a lurker. This is my first post here.

    -ew

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    For urlwire

    Hi there

    Welcome to the posting side of the forum.

    You may not have ben a journalist but in a way you are as all journalists do nothing more than write what other people have to say in a better presentation if you think about it.

    I would also say your pretty damn astute to align yourself with Bezos when he was an unknown...

    Neccisity is the mother of invention and I doubt Google will need to pull the plug on your site but if they do as you said I doubt it effects your business very much..you've got your list and probably do quite well with that....

    Maybe you can add in Press Release distibution as a service much like PRWeb...wouldn't be a big stretch for you I feel.

    Best of luck

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