Can we liken DMOZ editors to DMV employees?

[mysticlighthouse]

I've been trying to get listed in DMOZ for... oh... I don't know... most of the year. Here is my latest escapades with DMOZ editors in their forum
here.

[cbp]

I think that any DMOZ editor that does not list a flash site are doing the search public a favour. I went to your site and got tired of waiting for the flash to load --> I was out of there and so will a lot of searchers.

Searchers want valuable content - not pretty animation.

CBP

[mysticlighthouse]

Isn't it our purpose (as web developers) to show our potential clients what is possible with our talents? If I choose to cater to only flash, is that not my perogative? Should I HAVE to do with my site what others on slow connections tell me to do? Maybe the clientel that I am seeking do in deed have high speed connections.

[flood6]

I used to nose around that forum from time to time, but quit going after I got tired of reading the editor's crap. Your thread there is a perfect example. As was mentioned and inferred there, it is their job to edit the directory, not offer unwelcome site reviews.

Editors and webmasters give flash sites a hard time a lot, but if you don't like it, guess what...wait for it...HIS SITE ISN'T FOR YOU...it's for potential clients who often like to see a few bells and whistles.

My company site has a static background image, webmasters HATE it. I put more time into my ecommerce sites, but when I do get a site design client or inquiry from the site, you know what they inevitably comment on or request for their site? That's right; they want a "cool" background image. I then talk them out of it, telling them about all the negatives, but the fact is, most of my clients think flash, and other "whiz-bang" websites are great. Average surfers (and clients) don't look at websites the way we do.

Bryan isn't asking for the editors' opinions about his site, he's asking that they be nice enough to give his site the consideration they would give any other site they review. Being DMOZ editors does not make them experts on all things electronic. Let the clients he gains or looses decide if it is a good site or an annoying site. They would have to agree that it AT LEAST meets the minimum requirements to get listed, even the biggest flash hater in the world would have to agree that there are some people out there who will benifit from his site being listed.

Being listed in one category or another is a point that I won't even comment on because I can't figure out what they are thinking sometimes when it comes to why they place some sites where they do.

I understand that the editors are volunteers and that they have to put up with a lot of "special" people on that forum, but they (not all, but many) always come across as pricks on that forum. If they get annoyed by people there, stop posting and reading the forum and go back to positioning sites on the directory.

It is a sad, but true fact. Not being listed on that directory has a significant impact on the traffic and visibility a site gets.

In case a DMOZ editor reads this; I wasn't talking about you...I was talking about somebody else...

[mysticlighthouse]

flood6,

Thanks for the understanding. My site the way it is, is what draws my clients in. I could change it, but then it wouldn't be my style or how I want to convey my business.

I definitely sensed a superiority and purist tone in the editors' replies. Actually, the only one that seemed to be nice to me was "thehelper".

All I asked was why I was changed to basic from full service and I was ganged up on by a host of editor thugs. Even though it'll hurt me in the search engines... I'll have to say TO HELL WITH DMOZ!!

[cbp]

Not being listed on that directory has a significant impact on the traffic and visibility a site gets.

I have never had one visitor from my site being listed in DMOZ.

CBP

[mysticlighthouse]

cpb,

Google and many other search engines give more weight to sites listed in the DMOZ.

[cbp]

Google and many other search engines give more weight to sites listed in the DMOZ

No they don't. Google give no more weight to a DMOZ listing than any other link of similar PR and number of links on the page.

Do you have evidence otherwise?

CBP

[mysticlighthouse]

How would pages with lower page rank and less key word density surpass overnight pages that are higher in all the above categories just by being included in dmoz?

You can't tell me there isn't extra value added to being in the dmoz directory

I've seen your posts on WPW and you're very adamant about google not giving preference to DMOZ listings. And that's your opinion. You're entitled to it. But can YOU prove it?

Why do you think google uses those listings in the first place? Because they think that maybe they are more credible because they have been "hand-selected".

[greeneagle]

mysticlighthouse posted querie:

Can we liken DMOZ editors to DMV employees?

Are we talking about Texas or California?

Ken