All but home page no longer Index

[Jamie]

Recently all my primary pages accept for my home page are no longer indexed by Google. At one time they were all indexed. Some of my pages 3 and 4 level below however are still indexed. I have also dropped from a respectable 1st and 2nd page showings for my keywords down to out of site and I wonder if this could be related. And what would cause me not to be indexed on these pages? I have also noticed that when I take text from my home page and sometimes from my other pages another website that competes with me shows up but I do not see the text on his website. It looks like he has cloaked by website and I wonder if this has also impacted why my site is no longer indexed. I did report this site to Google today.

For example when I take this text from my home
page:
"A value added customer approach to pricing. A two-way translated connection starts for as low as $14... and then works it's way down." and do a search in Google this site come up before mine:

peru mail order brides - latin women - latina women - bride ...
... Latin bride A value added customer approach to pricing. A two-way translated
connection starts for as low as $14... and then works it's way down. ...
www.buytieline.com/ - 14k -

when I take other text from my site the same website will come up but under a different domain.

Now I recently changed by copy to lower the keyword content so I was only trying this with text I know had not recently changed.

Any comments on what I should do would be appreciated.

[cyanide]

Hi jamie,

Just skimmed through your site and I have to say, that I would probably would worry more about optimizing your own pages than worry about a copy-cat.
Not that I condone this other site's actions, ofcourse

When you say that your pages areno longer indexed by Google, did you make nay changes to your site?
There are many things you can do to optimize your pages.
On most of your pages, you have a session id and that's a definite search engine killer.
Your home page is extremely long and bots may become disgruntled having to index that page.

[janeth]

Hi Jamie,
I hope everything is going good.

I would like to add one thing to what cyanide has said.

To start with Google is always making changes so it is hard to figure out what there going to do next and what worked last week may not work this week.

Some people are saying that Google is also looking at the amount of links leaving a page right now you have

Total links: 130 links containing 641 LinkWords and 344 URL words.

Google thiks that if you have the asme amount or more links leaving then coming in then your trading links. This could be one problem your having.

There are a lot of other things you also need to look at but this might be a good starting point.

[Jamie]

When you say that your pages are no longer indexed by Google, did you make any changes to your site?

I had not made any changes to my site prior to my recent drop and lost of page indexing. I was ranked on the first two pages for most of my keywords and had many top 10 rankings prior to an immediate drop of my site. I only changed my keyword density based on the suggestions from this forum. All my primary pages were indexed shortly after going live in March of this year. Now my home page is indexed and most of my individual photo profile pages are indexed but not my primary pages (FAQ, About Us, Contact Us, Pricing & Services, Personal Introductions and Photo Profiles) However pages one level below the main Photo Profile page are indexed. Any ideas?

Please tell me more about the session Id because the only changes I have made over the last few months has been with copy and my ranking were only getting better over time until the drop.
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[Jamie]

[quote="cyanide"]

When you say that your pages areno longer indexed by Google, did you make nay changes to your site?
There are many things you can do to optimize your pages.
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I had not made any changes to my site prior to my recent drop and lost of page indexing. I was ranked on the first two pages for most of my keywords and had many top 10 rankings prior to an immediate drop of my site. I only changed my keyword density based on the suggestions from this forum. All my primary pages were indexed shortly after going live in March of this year. Now my home page is indexed and most of my individual photo profile pages are indexed but not my primary pages (FAQ, About Us, Contact Us, Pricing & Services, Personal Introductions and Photo Profiles) However pages one level below the main Photo Profile page are indexed. Any ideas?

Please tell me more about the session Id because the only changes I have made over the last few months has been with copy and my ranking were only getting better over time until the drop.

[Jamie]

Hi Jamie,
Some people are saying that Google is also looking at the amount of links leaving a page right now you have

Total links: 130 links containing 641 LinkWords and 344 URL words.

Google thiks that if you have the asme amount or more links leaving then coming in then your trading links.

Janeth these are all legitimate dating directories in which I have a reciprocal link with. I used key words that were in the title of their home page as my anchor text for these links. Do you think this may have hurt me for excessive use of key words?
I also noticed that for many of the big key words that these same dating directories are getting the top rankings. Why would they not be affected by the 100's of outgoing links they have?
I would not think my links would have anything to do with my loss of indexing, any ideas here? Is it possible I was being punished due to the other site cloaking my copy and Google reading me as a duplicate website? However, this would not explain my home site no being indexed since they cloaked the copy from this page also. Any help is welcomed. Thanks Jamie

[janeth]

If you have linked to one bad site that could also hurt you. You may want to make sure all the sites you have linked to have a pr with Google.

I have not slept but three hours in the last two days so I hope this comes out ok.

If everyone links to you using the same text then Google could ban your site for that text only.

I would wait a little because Google is not finished yet before I started making a lot of changes but I would work on getting links to different pages on the site and for different key words.

[cyanide]

Jamie,

Look on the end of all your pages, and you will see ?sid= followed by a series of digits. This is what's called a session id.
It's a search engine killer

A session id is unique and always changes. Think of it this way... on any one of your pages, when the bots come to it, the URL string will look different, bot will think it's a different page entirely. So how is it supposed to be indexed if it is always changing.

Proof of this is pr. Your home page is a pr of 4, but on every other page, it is 0.
I also just noticed you have another site with what looks like an exact duplicate. You could very well be on your way to being banned from Google.

Janeth has a point about the link exchanging, however it is not as serious as what I've mentioned above

[simonm]

Janeth wrote

If everyone links to you using the same text then Google could ban your site for that text only.

But in another post you highlighted the "miserable failure" effect of using the same link text to point to an unrelated web site.

These are strange and mysterious times, I am avoiding making too many assumptions until the next dance as most of my assumptions base don one group of sites seem to be dispelled when considering another group.

In terms of the Google algorithm, I expect it has to be intelligent and sophisticated (a bit like me) however, unlike me, it has to process over 2 billion pages with a very complex consideration of cross links etc. Thus it has to have limits as to the level of intelligence (AI) it can apply to assigning relative value to the 100 variables it deals with.

[janeth]

Hi simonm

Strange times mean you figure out whats going on and adjust not stop.

In the post before I said if everyone links to you and the links in your web site going to different pages all link with the same search term the Google can ban you for that search term.

I do not think every link going to the site uses the key word "miserable failure" and I'm sure bush did not use it to link to any of his pages in his site.