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    Google cop out

    We wrot eto Google ( initially received a standard response) shouted a litte and then received the following. Yawn............

    Hi Timothy,

    Thank you for your note. We have located your site,
    www.ukprivateinvestigators.com, within Google's search results at the
    following link:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...stigators.com+

    Results in our index change regularly based on ongoing, automated
    processes aimed at improving the quality and content of our search
    results. The changes you describe are consistent with these fluctuations.
    Our automatic processes sometimes cause dramatic shifts in the ranking or
    indexing of sites. We are always working to improve the quality of our
    search results and it is possible that your site will resume its previous
    position during the next crawl.

    We understand that this situation can be frustrating. However, as
    mentioned earlier, these processes are completely automated and not
    indicative of wrong-doing or penalization of individual sites.

    While we cannot guarantee that your page will consistently appear in our
    index or appear with a particular rank, we do offer guidelines for
    building a "crawler-friendly" site. You can find these guidelines at
    http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html . Following these
    recommendations may increase the likelihood that your site will show up
    consistently in Google search results.

    For more information, please visit the webmaster section of our site at
    http://www.google.com/webmasters/ . In an effort to better address your
    needs, we've dedicated this entire section of our website to answering
    common webmaster questions, listing Google's quality requirements and
    recommendations, and much more.

    We have also created a Google discussion group on Google Groups where
    Google users and webmasters can connect to share their vast knowledge and
    experience. You can access this group at
    http://groups.google.com/groups?q=go...upport.general .

    We hope that the information we have provided above is helpful to you.

    Regards,
    The Google Team

    Original Message Follows:
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    From: "UK Private Investigators" <globalpi@ukprivateinvestigators.com>
    Subject: UK Private Investigators
    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:19:59 -0000

    Sirs,

    Our website www.ukprivateinvestigators.com has been dropped from your
    search results - even when searching for "UK Private Investigators." This
    is the actual name of our business and not an attempt to "spam" your
    index. The keywording on our site directly reflects our businesses name
    and once again is NOT an attempt to spam the index.

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    same reply

    With all the monkey business going on at Google these days I did a little "shouting" of my own and would you believe it, but I got the same (and I mean exact) letter that you did. (substitute your url here...)

    I know this stuff happens but the timing is evil. A month before Christmas and you're basking in your top 10 rank and suddenly you are not even in the top 100 anymore.

    All advice is to "wait it out". Let's hope for next month and try not to go broke in the meatime.

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    Re: Google cop out

    Holy, repetitive meta tags, Batman!!!

    Clearly, this would be seen as SE spam and it stands to reason that your results would plummet. Honestly globalpi007, what were you expecting would happen???

    It's time to "clean house" in the head of your document. Use standard meta tags within reasonable boundaries and you'll do much better.

    Here's a link to a pretty decent guide to writing meta tags:
    Top meta tag myths - an introduction to correct use of meta tags

    <meta name="DC.Title" content="private investigators uk : Private Detectives UK : UK Private Investigators and Investigations - Private Investigators Kent - Tunbridge Wells - Missing Persons UK">
    <meta name="copyright" content="Private Investigators UK : UK Private Investigators">
    <meta name="updated" content="Daily">
    <meta name="distribution" content="Global">
    <meta name="search engines" content="Google, AltaVista, AOL, Yahoo, WebCrawler, Infoseek, Excite, Hotbot, Lycos, Magellan, LookSmart, UkIndex, CNET,
    UKDirectory, MSN">
    <meta name="robots" content="follow">
    <meta name="robots" content="index">
    <meta name="rating" content="Safe For Children">
    <meta name="revisit" content="Daily">
    <meta name="DC.Contributors" content="private investigators uk, UK Private Investigators - Kent private Investigators, Missing Persons UK">
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    Re: Google cop out

    wow! That's the biggest spamming in meta tags I've ever seen! I think we have found the problem...

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    Re: Google cop out

    Ever meet that guy at the local chamber of commerce meeting that won't shut up about how good of a "fill in the blank" he his?

    Google is hearing the same thing from you. Stop shouting, and simply develop your site in a quality manner, on topic and it will be rewarded.

    When it comes to page content, less is more. I promise.

    Outside of the meta information noted above, you should fix the 100+ errors in coding on your page. Impressive with how small of a home page it is.
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    Re: Google cop out

    Ok, thanks guys - tags trimmed now but how do I fix the errors?

    Regards,

    Tim

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    Re: Google cop out

    Tags trimmed? This is what I see now:

    <title>Private Investigators UK : The UK Private Investigators and Detectives : Private Investigators Kent, tunbridge Wells Private Investigators and detectives:</title>
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="stylesheets/ukpi-default.css" type="text/css">
    <meta name="DC.Title" content="private investigators uk : Private Detectives UK : UK Private Investigators and Investigations - Private Investigators Kent - Tunbridge Wells - Missing Persons UK">
    <meta name="copyright" content="Private Investigators UK : UK Private Investigators">
    <meta name="updated" content="Daily">
    <meta name="distribution" content="Global">
    <meta name="search engines" content="Google, AltaVista, AOL, Yahoo, WebCrawler, Infoseek, Excite, Hotbot, Lycos, Magellan, LookSmart, UkIndex, CNET,
    UKDirectory, MSN">
    <meta name="robots" content="follow">
    <meta name="robots" content="index">
    <meta name="rating" content="Safe For Children">
    <meta name="revisit" content="Daily">
    <meta name="DC.Contributors" content="private investigators uk, UK Private Investigators - Kent private Investigators, Missing Persons UK">
    <meta name="DC.Coverage.PlaceName" content="london, uk, private investigators uk, europe, california, texas, florida, iowa, nebraska, new york, hawaii, st.louis, russia, moscow,
    south america, indiana, india, france, italy, germany, spain, usa, the netherlands, malta">
    <meta name="DC.Creator" content="Private Investigators uk, Discreet Service, UK Private Investigators, Missing Persons UK, pay only for results, legal, law,
    investigations, private investigators uk">
    <meta name="DC.Description" content="We carry out Private Investigations all over The World. Missing Persons
    located, surveillance, corporate due diligence, mystery shopping (test purchase) and many other Private Investigations at www.ukprivateinvestigators.com.">
    <meta name="DC.Language" content="EN">
    <meta name="DC.Publisher" content="Private Investigators based in The UK covering Private Investigations all over The World.">
    <meta name="author" content="SHEAKOS Design 2001">
    <meta name="description" content="We carry out Private Investigations all over The World. Missing Persons
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    I think you might have some more trimming to do ...
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    Re: Google cop out

    You still have too many meta tags on your home page and your title tag is way too long - people say 60 - 100 characters max.

    Try this page Meta Tags Explained for a guide on the meta tags to use

    Most search engines ignore the keywords tag, so don't overdo it - 25 words max and don't repeat any word.

    The most important meta tag is the description tag - make it keyword rich and keep it fairly short.

    Rebuild the site using css - this would really clean the code up

    Add meta description tags that are relevant to the page content - you have some pages that don't have them

    Don't use Namo! I used a few years ago at work and found it a complete waste of time. Dreamweaver is the best software to use.

    Apply the same principles to every page of your website.

    Do you do maintain the site yourself?

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    Re: Google cop out

    I do maintain the site - I need some pointers here I think. The only confusing thing is the fact that the site has been fine on Google, as it stands, for years! I have emailed Google three times and still have not had a response.......

    Tim

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