Google SERPS, does this make sense?

[bbott]

Please read this and tell me if it makes any sense to you...

My web site, http://www.ewebdevelopment.net, has 58 backlinks and ranks the following in each type of search:

new jersey web design RANK = Not Found
allintitle:new jersey web design RANK = 3rd
allintext:new jersey web design RANK = 3rd
allinanchor:new jersey web design RANK = 4th



Ok, now here is the info for my competitor www. e mountaindesign .com

Their site has 72 backlinks and ranks the following in each type of search:

New JErsey Web Design RANK = 1st
allintitle:new jersey web design RANK = Not Found
allintext:new jersey web design RANK = Not Found
allinanchor:new jersey web design RANK = 2nd


How come emountain is coming up number one for my keyword and I am nowhere to be found in the top 1000 sites????

FYI - my site is 4 months old.

[bbott]

Please read this and tell me if it makes any sense to you...

My web site, http://www.ewebdevelopment.net, has 58 backlinks and ranks the following in each type of search:

new jersey web design RANK = Not Found
allintitle:new jersey web design RANK = 3rd
allintext:new jersey web design RANK = 3rd
allinanchor:new jersey web design RANK = 4th



Ok, now here is the info for my competitor www. e mountaindesign .com

Their site has 72 backlinks and ranks the following in each type of search:

New JErsey Web Design RANK = 1st
allintitle:new jersey web design RANK = Not Found
allintext:new jersey web design RANK = Not Found
allinanchor:new jersey web design RANK = 2nd


How come emountain is coming up number one for my keyword and I am nowhere to be found in the top 1000 sites????

FYI - my site is 4 months old.

anyone?

[jestep]

I would say that you just need to wait longer for your site to be ranked.

More importantly, you also have to have links with that phrase as the anchor text.

[happygolucky]

I assume that you do have the anchor text links because of your allinanchor link. However the rank really depends on when you got those anchor text links. If you got them 4 months ago then something is up at google but perhaps you got the links (or some of them) more recently than that.

For example I have a site that is in a similar position to yours. My search term is not very competitive and the site has been moving up the rankings but is still far apart from the allinanchor etc. As some of my links are more recent I assume that these are in the sandbox and when they get released (assuming 3 months after getting them) I will rank much better and nearer (if not at) my allinanchor place.

So patience and keep getting those anchor links.

[Ecotourdirectory]

Exact same thing is happening to me - http://www.ecotourdirectory.com :

- allintext:ecotour (3rd)
- allinanchor:ecotour (5th)
- allintitle:ecotour (3rd)

I think I show somewhere around 180th for 'ecotour'.

What am I doing wrong? This is driving me mad...

[Stoma]

These "no-serps" posts seem to be everywhere these days. How many of those with problems have been buying "site-wide" style links? I can see Ecotour has, with "ecotour directory" as the anchor.

Search for something in the body text:
guidelines for ecotravel: #1 & # 2

Add one of those site-wide anchors:
ecotour guidelines for ecotravel: #2 & #3

Bumped by a mediocre match with no strength for "ecotour". The site is being killed for those spammed anchors. It's a case of the Sandbox, which is a much more brutal syndrome than most people believe. Basically it seems to kill all your optimisation while not hurting your body-text matches at all.

I don't know how you get released from sandboxing, and I suspect just waiting won't work. Certainly you should get rid of the sleazy linking practices right away.

[Ecotourdirectory]

Hi Stoma,

I appriciate your comments but am confused at what you are saying.

The only links I have ever purchased are directory entires into bluefind and Go Guides. That is it. What do you mean by 'sleazy linking practices'? All the sites that link to me are ecotourism related or speciality travel related.

Also, the directory is called 'EcoTour Directory'. How is that keyword spamming? Also my site contains pages and pages of highly useful and relevant content to 'ecotours'.

How do you advise I get rid of the 'sleazy linking' practises? Is it simply a case of requesting that people link to me using alternate anchor text. I.E without the word 'ecotour' in it?

[happygolucky]

These "no-serps" posts seem to be everywhere these days. How many of those with problems have been buying "site-wide" style links? I can see Ecotour has, with "ecotour directory" as the anchor.

It's a case of the Sandbox, which is a much more brutal syndrome than most people believe. Basically it seems to kill all your optimisation while not hurting your body-text matches at all.

I don't know how you get released from sandboxing, and I suspect just waiting won't work. Certainly you should get rid of the sleazy linking practices right away.

No it is not link practises it is the sandbox. If the term is uncompetitive then the term may rank right away as soon as google picks up the anchor links. But if your optimised term contains just one word that is competitive eg website or directory then its the sandbox for you. The sandbox does appear to affect new sites more as well (ie less than 6 months old).

It used to be that the sandbox was 3 months. I still think that is about right.

In terms of ranking for ecotour - try some anchors with just "ecotour" and miss out "directory". Might be too late though as google may not release it from the sandbox.

[Ecotourdirectory]

Thanks for the advice.

Wish somebody could drag me out of this */?*ing sandbox!! I've had enough of playing now....

[Stoma]

Ecotour,

I know those links look fine to you, but Google really seems to be cracking down on site-wides now. They see them as a way of unfairly manipulating PR and serps (which they are!).

It's the sheer number of them that says Spam. Stick to one link per site, all with the same anchor is OK, vary it if you want.

It just doesn't matter how good your site is, mass linking is cracked down on automatically. I've had three of my quality sites sandboxed like this, but all my junk sites are unaffected!