Yahoo ranking secrets

[kjohnson5576]

So who's going to give us some tips on Yahoo Ranking? What do they want? My site is listed in the top 10-20 for virutually all my keywords in Google, but since the Yahoo/Google Split...I can't find myself in Yahoo.

I do have a second site that I don't take care of, don't update and really only use it to point people to my main site (it sells different items) and it ranks in the top 3 in a lot of keyword catagories on Yahoo. I think I've updated it only twice in the last year, haven't put a new link or cleared any non-performing links since last August. It's doing good!
But may main site with all the visitors, traffic, links and regular updates is just not there. The Yahoo bot visits regularly, but must think my Google Optimized site is really not worthy of a top 20 ranking.

So what's the story with Yahoo? Any tips?

How 'bout MSN too?

[sdz2004]

I have the exact same question. I am number one for at least a dozen competitive phrases for one of my sites, but not even in the top 30 at Yahoo. Anyone else seeing this, or have a clue what this could be?

[nikao]

im seeing (very) different results in different search engines too.. of course there are differentes..cause they use different alogorithms. But the secret to good rankings in other se? .. i wouldnt know! ..

You said your main site ranks good in google.. does your other site rank good as well?.. cause if it does..you have your secret to good ranking in google and yahoo at the same time under your nose!.. if it doesn't.. maybe that's the problem.... ranking good in google is bad in yahoo?

[sfowler]

I was also wondering if there is now bad blood between Yahoo and Google. I have had a Geocities site for a couple of months and a Yahoo business site for about 4 weeks now and the Googlebot has never been near them. I do wash sometimes, so that can't be the problem.

[kjohnson5576]

My secondary site that I don't take care of is pretty much not ranked by Google and it only ranks well in one Yahoo keyword catagory that I know found.

There has to be some sort of a trick to Yahoo...perhaps it's Overture Advertising?

[bhartzer]

Yahoo! really really really loves keyword text links. I don't want to get too specific, but Yahoo! really really really loves keyword text links.

[achronister]

We recently signed up for XML SiteMatch (after we were banned from Yahoo for some reason, still unknown). We are ranking well on both Google and Yahoo at this time (although on Yahoo we are not as high, but still rank fairly well)

I have another site in Yahoo that ranks very well on Google but nowhere on Yahoo. I don't really do anything differently with these sites, the only difference being our SiteMatch site has around 10,000 URL's and the other poor ranking site only has about 75.

Just a thought, but Possibly the larger the site the better the rankings. Possilby due to internal link popularity or something.

Just throwing out and idea. I haven't heard any definitive answers to this one.

[george_uk]

we have the exact same problem with yahoo. On google we are on page1, position 3 for our main keyword which has about 4 million results. Yet on yahoo we won't budge from page 2, position 39. We noticed that yahoo wasn't regisitering all our links and worked really hard to get some more links. We now have over 2000 links showing on yahoo, about 2000 more than the competition (including the number 1 site which has a measly 40 links). And even with the new links which have been up for almost 2 months now, we are not seeing changes in the SERPS. Its for this reason that I'm yet to be conceived that yahoo loves text links.

If anyone else has an any comments/experience to share I think we'd all be grateful!

[ferret77]

I'll get specific bhartzer

just put key words in your internal text links

an extreme form of it would be this

http://www.straycatscharters.com/fly...ing_Guide.html

(by the way this can rank for terms in yahoo)

do the same thing but not as extreme

[cbp]

When I compare a couple of my sites that rank well in Google, but better in Yahoo - one obvious difference is the anchor text in internal links seems to be more heavily weighted by Yahoo - so would agree with the above.

Google are also much more sophitisicated in there analysis of incoming links - weighting them very differently. And Google also looks for more "quality signals". Yahoo seems to be more into 'ranking penalties'.

The tittle of this thread is about the secrets of a Yahoo ranking - my response is that there is no "secrets" as such. There is the basic SEO and different search engines weight different aspects of site differently. Its not a matter of doing one thing for Google and another thing for Yahoo - I just do the one thing for the site.

CBP