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Thread: Paid vs. Free security for PC

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepsand View Post
    Only 50+ years of experience, beginning with octal machine coding of PENNSTAC.

    Weren't expecting that, were you?
    50+? Wow... No I wasn't expecting that.
    So you should know how flawed the TCP/IP stack is then?
    Or, perhaps, you have seen the development of a technology which was never designed to be secure?

    No mention of the other major security flaws?
    Maybe there's a reason you ignored the other issues.

    Now maybe a good time to remind you that computers no longer run on since "1,400 additions of 10-digit numbers in one second".
    You, for example, can no longer sniff network traffic based on blinking lights -_-

    Forgive me for not believing your security knowledge, but I know of at least 20 security professionals which would totally disagree with you.... Hell, I am one.
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    Maybe now's a good time to remind you that you and those who may agree with you do not hold the sum total of human knowledge and understanding.

    Now, ignoring the pixie dust that you scatter about so as to distract only those easily misdirected by irrelevancies, and to return to the core subject, perhaps you can explain how a vendor providing both a free and paid version of a security product might stand to benefit by having the former be inferior to the latter.

    In doing so, bear in mind that the reading audience is one for which consumer grade product is the more suitable, not enterprise grade.

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    By "Pixie dust" you are referring to?

    ^Simple sales tactics. Up/Cross sales.
    Offer a free product littered with buttons and images offering a better service with more protection if upgraded to their paid version of the same software.

    As for vendors only offering a free product; it it widely known that if your are not paying for the product, you are the product.
    Case in point: Google products and the sale of information obtained therefrom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kheanna888
    Pay the antivirus companies to get better pc securities or else ....
    Whether mentioned earlier in this thread or not, it bears mentioning again that there are free programs that will foot the bill - for some. It may not be good for me, but it may be good for the average user. Take for example Microsoft Security Essentials - this may work for a good many people. Of course, it's a MS product - like them or not it's free and anything free that works, can't be a bad thing.
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    By "Pixie dust" you are referring to?

    ^Simple sales tactics. Up/Cross sales.
    Offer a free product littered with buttons and images offering a better service with more protection if upgraded to their paid version of the same software.

    As for vendors only offering a free product; it it widely known that if your are not paying for the product, you are the product.
    Case in point: Google products and the sale of information obtained therefrom.
    Non-responsive, by virtue of being non-sequitur, making a false equivalency so as to construct a false dichotomy, non-substantive, and irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepsand View Post
    Non-responsive, by virtue of being non-sequitur, making a false equivalency so as to construct a false dichotomy, non-substantive, and irrelevant.
    You failed attempt to sound intelligent seems to have gone unnoticed...
    Care to answer any of the questions I asked or posit in any other form than pretentious and conjectural self-affirmation ?

    Dichotomous non sequitur, indeed.

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    An interesting article on ZDNet website.
    German security company Avira is experiencing serious technical difficulties. A defective antivirus update that has been downloaded millions of times is bringing Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 computers to a screeching halt across the world, according to user reports (1, 2). The update bumps the software version to 8.2.10.64 and the definitions file to 7.11.30.24. The result is that the AntiVirProActiv component starts detecting critical processes as malware, including the following:

    • \windows\system32\dllhost.exe
    • \windows\system32\explorer.exe
    • \windows\system32\iexplorer.exe
    • \windows\system32\notepad.exe
    • \windows\system32\regedit.exe
    • \windows\system32\rundll32.exe
    • \windows\system32\taskeng.exe
    • \windows\system32\wuauclt.exe

    Those are just some of the false detected Windows processes. Avira sometimes kills them and stops Windows from booting, but that’s not the end of it.
    The update is also blocking other Microsoft software (such as Microsoft Office and Microsoft Works) as well as various third-party applications, including Byki 4 Express, Documents To Go, Garmin, Google Talk, iPod and Palm services, Opera, OpenDNS Updater, Polipo, Shadow, Stickies, and many others. In other words, almost every executable file is being falsely detected by this update.

    For full article: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/a...29?tag=nl.e036

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