Google’s Glory Days Are Numbered

[deepsand]

I for one greatly appreciate Adwords and will say a prayer that it is here for a long time.

Only if it becomes like Overture become Yahoo bought it.

[anombon]

Because an unfettered lust for power is always its own downfall.

And jealousy also breeds envy which leads to people making claims that are illogical. How exactly do things like Google and YouTube go away? Will people forget about Google? Will they forget about YouTube? I do think that people will start to use Bing more, but I can't see people stopping to use Google or even switching unless it is because of the phone or operating system or browser they are using.

If Google would "fall" it would take years and years much like the downfall of Rome - except Google is international and diversified and doesn't have civil wars - they have a CEO.

[deepsand]

The "jealousy" claim is wholly non sequitur. The assertion that all claims made against Google are "illogical" is patently false on its face, as evidenced by public facts.

I suggest that you undertake a serious study of what Google has become; and, reflect on the fact that it is not for lack of reason that it is being investigated by so many in so many countries.

If you are here expecting a gathering of the Google faithful, those who religiously quaff deeply of its Kool Aid, you will be disappointed. We here gathered see Google with our eyes wide open, for what it really is, and simply use it to the best of our abilities.

Google is an advertising firm masquerading as an IT services provider.

[anombon]

I'm not drinking "the Google Kool Aid" I'm simply pointing out that they are the best at providing search results. What makes "Siri" or any other search engine better than them? That is why I think the claims of their downfall are illogical.

I think it is more reasonable to say that Google won't have complete domination forever and that Bing will be able to leverage their platforms to increase their market share - but to say that Google will completely go away is ludicrous. Unless by downfall you mean going from %70 market share to 50 or 40 percent.

[deepsand]

I'm not drinking "the Google Kool Aid" I'm simply pointing out that they are the best at providing search results.

Bovine excrement. Google manipulates their search so as to help you find what they want you to see.

Academic studies have found the relevancy of Google's SERPs to be inferior to those of Bing.

While 81% of Bing/Yahoo users actually click on the organic SERPs, only 65 % of Google users do.

I could go on, but I've not the time for a lengthy recitation of public facts.

In closing, take note that that 70% "market share" is neither global nor indicative of ad market share, but only of search traffic volume.

Here's a case study for you re. relevancy. Do the following two searches on both Google and Bing, using the character strings precisely as below presented, and see what results you get.

• clubplaystation.com
• "clubplaystation.com"

[anombon]

You example wasn't that great. I googled and binged clubplaystation.com and got this result on my Bing page wikipedia .org/wiki/Ouran_High_School_Host_​Club - not sure how its related at all to the search and YouTube video about Ouran Highschool - Am I missing something or did I search wrong? Google's results gave me information about the URL clubplaystation.com - which presumably what we were supposed to search for.

And besides, they may even be equal good - but it would be like Coke and Pepsi - Coke didn't go away because Pepsi came along.

Edit: oh, I see Ouran is a play station two thing according to the Wikipedia article.

its just a different way of calculating a search request - Google assumes you are looking for information about the URL (because you searched the URL) Bing assumes you are looking for information about the product.

Search just "clubplaystation" on Google and you will get entirely different results that are not the URL. I don't really know what the proof of your example is, especially when we know Bing tried to use Google results for their own search Engine

[deepsand]

For each SE, both without and with the double-quotes, what was the very first organic listing?

[anombon]

For each SE, both without and with the double-quotes, what was the very first organic listing?

if you search just clubplaystation.com on both SEs, you get the same result as #1
if you search "clubplaystation.com" Bing delivers clubplaystation .com/?p=881 while Google delivers homepage
if you search clubplaystation Bing delivers clubplaystation .com/?p=881 while Google delivers www .theplaystationclub .com

still don't get what the difference in algorithm is supposed to be

[deepsand]

For me, repeated Google searches for clubplaystation.com get changed to playstation.com; ditto for "clubplaystation.com". The only way to find it on Google is via site:clubplaystation.com.

Google unilaterally changes my query string, without even offering to use it as an alternative.

For an SE whose results are so acclaimed by many, how to explain that?

Also, since Google obviously has an exact match indexed, how do you explain the fact that your Google search for clubplaystation returned theplaystationclub as the first result?

Search just "clubplaystation" on Google and you will get entirely different results that are not the URL.

Note how your search results run contrary to your belief re. the importance of keywords in URLs.

[LD]

With clubplaystation.com as my search (sans quotes) I get results that start with "did you mean clubplaystation3.com", then 4 listings for the clubplaystation.com site.

Without the ".com", I get "Showing results for club playstation", then in smaller font, "Search instead for clubplaystation"