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Thread: Any reason to use alternative keywords search?

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    Any reason to use alternative keywords search?

    Dear forum members,
    A simple question with probably not a simple answer.
    From your point of view is there any good reason to use keywords generation/suggestion tools other than Goggle AdWords keywords suggestion tool now?
    If there is, why and for which purposes?

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    How about for the simple reason that Google can only monitor searches that it performs, and that its user base is not necessarily representative of those of other SEs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepsand View Post
    How about for the simple reason that Google can only monitor searches that
    it performs, and that its user base is not necessarily representative of those of other SEs?
    In other words you want to say that keywords suggested by Google recommendation are from its search queries, right?
    You said other search engines - like what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vit View Post
    In other words you want to say that keywords suggested by Google recommendation are from its search queries, right?
    Of course. How could it be otherwise?

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    You said other search engines - like what?
    Am I to understand and believe that you think Google to be the only search engine that exists and is in use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepsand View Post
    Of course. How could it be otherwise?
    Not only search engine logs is the source of keywords. I, for example, generate any number of them on any subject without access to any search logs.

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    Am I to understand and believe that you think Google to be the only search engine that exists and is in use?
    Well, of course Bing, Yahoo and smaller search engines like different yellow pages. But Google dominates big time in terms of different kind of searches (regular, local) and for sponsored links (PPC).
    If I am wrong let me know which search engines are also widely used so that we can deriously speak about doing SEO, running ad campaigns for them and generating keywords for these purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vit View Post
    Not only search engine logs is the source of keywords. I, for example, generate any number of them on any subject without access to any search logs.
    That isn't going to reveal any information re. what query strings users actually employ.

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    Well, of course Bing, Yahoo and smaller search engines like different yellow pages. But Google dominates big time in terms of different kind of searches (regular, local) and for sponsored links (PPC).
    Google dominates certain demographics only. And, dominance does not perforce mean best ROI.

    To ignore other SEs and ad syndicators is to needlessly leave money on the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepsand View Post
    That isn't going to reveal any information re. what query strings users actually employ.
    What do you mean by query strings? I presume it's not URL's query strings but users search queries. If this is what you mean, of course, when I said I can generate keywords from not SE log sources I meant keywords (key phrases) which are searched by people along with their popularity and other useful characteristics.

    Quote Originally Posted by deepsand View Post
    Google dominates certain demographics only. And, dominance does not perforce mean best ROI.

    To ignore other SEs and ad syndicators is to needlessly leave money on the table.
    Could you be more specific. Give me examples, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vit View Post
    What do you mean by query strings?
    The character strings that users actually type into an SEs input field.

    Quote Originally Posted by vit View Post
    If this is what you mean, of course, when I said I can generate keywords from not SE log sources I meant keywords (key phrases) which are searched by people along with their popularity and other useful characteristics.
    The only way to know what query strings users are typing is to capture such at the point of data entry.

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    Could you be more specific. Give me examples, please.
    More specific how? Examples of what?

    Does not the fact that different people drive different cars, wear different clothing, eat different foods, drinks different beverages, live in different dwellings, listen to different music, read different books, magazines & newspapers, like different art, watch different movies and television programs, have different religious/spiritual beliefs, have different political positions, ad infinitum speak volumes?

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    The only way to know what query strings users are typing is to capture such at the point of data entry.
    Fortunately not the only way. There is some researh and experience how to get what people potentially type from other sources. I can tell you it works perfectly well to generate potential search queries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vit View Post
    Fortunately not the only way. There is some researh and experience how to get what people potentially type from other sources.
    Potentially type != actually typed.

    At this point I must wonder what the real intent of your opening post was. The question as posed is actually a very simple one; and, one that was plainly answered. Your responses have been to reject what you have received, which signals that you actually had a preconceived answer, one that you will not easily give up.

    What were you actually seeking? To have your belief(s) validated by others?

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