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    Question Semantic Startup Or Semantic Fraud?

    Hello members of WebProWorld.com. I just came across this document entitled Semantic Text Startup Reads and Summarizes Documents for You.

    The startup’s beta product represents more than four years of machine learning and artificial intelligence research that can statistically analyze cloud documents, or those you upload to service, to quickly distill them down to six sections: Overview, Facts, Summary, Keywords, Index and Properties.
    Does anyone see value in this type of technology from a content/SEO point of view? The article says there are an infinite number of uses for the service and I'm wondering if anyone has either used this service yet or a similar one in the past.

    OK so Topicmarks summarizes your cloud documents and extracts the most important points for you but then what? Copy and Paste the summary into another blog post?

    If anyone can see a use that this service that I'm over-looking please advise.

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    Be useful seperated data for an internal search feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by williamc View Post
    Be useful seperated data for an internal search feature.
    That's it? What about from an SEO perspective - work wise?
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    I could think of a number of uses, but most would not be considered 'white'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by williamc View Post
    I could think of a number of uses, but most would not be considered 'white'.
    OH come on William, black shmat, white shmite...I can't think of a thing other than grabbing the summary and throwing it against the wall (into a blog/bookmarking post)..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by morestar View Post
    OH come on William, black shmat, white shmite...I can't think of a thing other than grabbing the summary and throwing it against the wall (into a blog/bookmarking post)..?
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    I would agree, you likely can not. I, on the other hand, could build millions of thousand page 100% relevant linksites using the data, as well as numerous other uses for it. You have simply not strayed off the beaten path Google lays out for the sheeple.
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    Okay, how about combining semantic analysis with RDFa scraping..

    RDFa makes a web site far easier to scrape the real content out of.. Scrape 1000 sites in one niche..

    Take those 1k site's data sets and then run them all through a semantic analysis engine to pull the meat out of each page..

    Spin..

    Autoblog..

    Instantly generate thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of pages with solid content with little to no effort.. And since it is done using similar techniques as those used by the SEs for ranking, it becomes nearly impossible to detect..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveGerencser View Post
    Instantly generate thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of pages with solid content with little to no effort.. And since it is done using similar techniques as those used by the SEs for ranking, it becomes nearly impossible to detect..
    With solid content? Even more solid than Wikipedia, that is not always solid?

    In 2011, I though we were ahead of content writing software and bots.

    Google:

    content writing software

    content writing bots

    A related old WPW article:

    Semantic engines - nothing difficult, at all...

    Luckily, I have my old link collection (the above link is one example) of more than 30 000 sites and articles that becomes more and more stable.

    I don't doubt that it is profitable though.

    Authority manually managed portals, linkcollections and directories are still important. Hopefully they filter out this nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morestar View Post
    Does anyone see value in this type of technology from a content/SEO point of view? The article says there are an infinite number of uses for the service and I'm wondering if anyone has either used this service yet or a similar one in the past.
    Well. Technically, Search Engines like Google use this sort of technology, correct?

    It could be combination of the Mashable venue, and the article, lending to the feel of it being fraudulent rather than the technology itself.

    On one end, there might be Media Managers who have to sort through documents for specific pieces of information, or Human resources managers who have to sort through resumes.

    On the other hand I do remember Lockheed Martin at one point pitching their search technology as a means to extract essential pieces of information, such as time, place, people, ect... and it was aimed at the intelligence community.

    So... maybe the tech you are looking at is not so hot in comparison to others? But it doesn't make it a fraud. Maybe just a beta...

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