White hat and black hat seo

[Millionaireman]

now i would say black hat seo are unethical practices that internet marketers do in order to gain more leverage from internet marketers who are only using ethical techniques like white hat seo techniques. A very basic black hat techniques would be key word stuffing however this technique is no longer given weight by bots.

[SteveGerencser]

now i would say black hat seo are unethical practices that internet marketers do in order to gain more leverage from internet marketers who are only using ethical techniques like white hat seo techniques. A very basic black hat techniques would be key word stuffing however this technique is no longer given weight by bots.

You are kidding right?? Writing a lot of words together on a web page is an "ethical" issue?? Really??

If Google were to come out and tell you that all web pages that use the color purple on them were violating their "ethical code" would you stop using the color purple??

[Millionaireman]

@SteveGerencser well the term "unethical" for me would be the best term to describe black hat techniques, i wouldn't describe it as illegal because if that is the case then most of us would be in jail right now...... so what term would you rather describe it so that i could update my vocabulary?

@printing.host Well, keyword stuffing is repeating the same keywords on the meta tags or even on the content of your websites. some would even try hiding the repeated keywords by blending the color of the keyword to match the background of your website. Now, i'm not suggesting you do this but we are just merely discussing a black hat technique

[SteveGerencser]

Why use the term "ethical" at all?? If Wal-Mart moved in to the same shopping center where you had your own store and told you that that flyers you put up on telephone poles for your store are now are now "unethical" would you stop putting up those flyers?? What if Wal-Mart told you that they didn't like the customers you had and decided that they were a bad element, would you stop working with them??

Why do you allow Google to have this much power over you and your business??

BTW, keyword stuffing is about as black hat as an ant is an elephant..

[mike95910]

I know you guys are all technical and discuss seo as if its white and black. My only problem with sites that do seo(white or black), is that they make the search engines useless to an extent.

Couldnt of said it any better myself.

[SteveGerencser]

Couldnt of said it any better myself.

Then why do you have links in your sig pointing to what I assume are your web sites?? Technically, this is SEO and if you think this makes SEs useless, why do you do it??

[Millionaireman]

@ SteveGerencser well sadly the internet search engines is currently dominated by google. For us, who are just starting or somehow gained some little experience would rather use the wheel rather than reinvent it....." As a lot of people say if you were able to rank well in google then the rest would follow."

Why do you allow Google to have this much power over you and your business??

I'm listening..... what do you suggest?

[williamc]

I'm listening..... what do you suggest?

Before search engines caught on, long before Google was created, there was this thing called advertising.. Many of us that made money on the net back then did so because we were smart enough to create relationships with relevant sites that had traffic from other sources.

[izapharry]

If you are doing SEO according to Google guidelines then that is white seo if you are doing reverse then it is black hat seo

[williamc]

If you are doing SEO according to Google guidelines then that is white seo if you are doing reverse then it is black hat seo

So, if I do what Google says, but in reverse order, it would be blackhat?