Any Fish Lovers care to post at fish-hooked.com/forum ?

[EJRS.COM]

Anybody got anything fishy to share at http://fish-hooked.com/forum ? Looking for articles an stuff to do with fish/fisheries/environmental issues, etc.

[paulhiles]

Buddy, can you spare a dime? ;o)

Have a look at this thread:
Potential of forums

Paul

[EJRS.COM]

Potential of forums? Talk about gibberish. I did not understand a thing they were saying!! Yikes. I hope I get intelligent people.

I like ghstdrgns' tagline...
i see stupid people
and they keep talking to me.

[mikmik]

Many do not understand satire.

If you want to get Erics attention, in your case, you must face north-west, and look up.

How about that the methods for deterining the North Atlantic cod fisheries health has been found to be overestimating the populations by a factor of ten, and that most of the fishies that maintain the foundation of our global foodchain, or at least indicate its health, are probably past the point of recovery.
And still, there are people that want to kill the rest to make money.
Or that it is now inevitable the average temperature of the Earth will rise 4 degrees Celsius within 50 years, and that would be the best case scenario if the production of greenhouse gasses were to cease immediatly.

What will that do to the fishies? What will happen when Malaysia gets F5 hurricanes twice a year.
There will be no websites left to read about fishies at.

How about that the US Navy wants to keep testing long range "Sub-sonar" that is responsible for shatterring the brain sheaths and ear membranes in whales up to 160 kilometers distant, and this is now known to be responsible for clearing entire whale populations from the south, and indeed all of, the Carribean ocean, and causing whales to beach themselves in an effort to commit suicide to escape the immeasurable agony they are in. This is neccessary, the Navy reasons, to protect the 'free world' from terrorists, so that we will be able to kill fishies in peace.

If you understand psychology, you will appreciate that some of us use humour to deal with the stress of all this knowledge, and if we didn't have each other to joke with, and affirm our common humanity, and ability to bond on a fundamental level, we would go insane from our realization at how cruel and self-centered people can be, and the seeming lack of the slightest remorse over their destruction of our planetary enviornment.

There is your article, that you seem to be so shamelessly promoting in a thread that is not asking for your opinion, but serves another purpose that what you comprehend.

[mikmik]

PS I like my tagline, at least it has a purpose.
People who point fingers have three pointing back at them.
Your insults and provincial thinking are not appreciated, and I valued this forum at one time for our commraderie and loyalty mto one another, not the banal banter about wet teeshirts and starbuck coffee that passes for wit these days.

Maybe have a look at this thread on your next recruitment mission.

There is IQ, and there is fundamental understanding.
Do not confuse the two.

[mikmik]

Buddy, can you spare a dime? ;o)

Have a look at this thread:
Potential of forums

Kind of ironic, erjs, that was 'bait', and you took it.

But this is BS. I love this forum, and I remember the first post I saw by you, it was in a thread about 'sharing'.
We were posting links for good free software that might be of benefits to others
I followed your link, and then I told you that you had a very good web site.
I have told maybe 10 people that, it is a true sign of respect from me, for it is what I cannot accomplish.
I like you a lot, ERJS, and think you have much to offer. This is a community of many such people, and I deeply value some of the friendships I have made here.

But we are here to support each other, and be honest. I react very strongly these days to what I think are 'pretenders' ie: people who pretend to be "doing something important" when all it is is lip service, and they are mnerely covereing up their own guilt about not being able to do more.
We are here to teach each other, and you, like the rest, have much to offer. We must be friends, and we must be real, or else it all falls apart.
It is okay to say and do what you will, that is what the break room is for, it is precisely to talk about whatever we want to (But NOT web business LOL), as long as it is not harmful to others.
I have no problem with that, and if I don't agree with what you say, that is my problem, it is your right.
I only have a problem with being judged, and critisized and ridiculed in public, or being lied to.
That is when I stand.

But I want to be friends with everybody, and let them shine their own light, whether it s my favourite color or not.

So, can we, all of us, just please be friends, and support each other, and respect what is offered by each individual, please?

Please?

[mikmik]

The impact of fishing in the deep sea goes far beyond just removing the fish. Fisheries are concentrated into places that have the greatest biological significance; places like seamounts and canyon walls where materials that are wafted in on currents support rich communities of species - corals, sponges, seafans and hydroids.

Deep-sea fishing is said to be inflicting terrible collateral damage on these species as trawl meshes plough through the water.

"Off the East Coast of North America bizarre and beautiful fields of glass sponges have been trawled to oblivion. In the Southern Ocean, 'lush forests' of invertebrates have been literally stripped from the top of seamounts by trawlers targeting orange roughy."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/...02/1823575.stm

How much you want ERJS.

While some New England fish species seem to be increasing in numbers, the report,
funded by The Pew Charitable Trusts and released yesterday in Boston, said their
recovery is not telling the whole story: North Atlantic fish stocks are so depleted that
there are barely enough mature fish to produce another generation.
The collapse of fish populations is occurring, said the study, because the population of
fish that people eat diminishes while commercial fishing rises.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:y...atlantic&hl=en

Cod stocks - once so plentiful that early explorers joked that you could walk on the backs of the teeming fish - are now at historically low levels and show no signs of imminent recovery, despite a decade of drastic conservation measures and severely limited fishing, Thibault said.

http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsst...2003/story.htm

Proud to be a HUMAN

"Indisputable evidence of the harm such a barrage of sound can do to marine life began to accumulate in March 2000, when members of four different species of whales and dolphins stranded themselves on beaches in the Bahamas after a U.S. Navy battle group used active sonar in the area. Despite efforts to save the whales, seven of them died. The Navy initially denied that active sonar was to blame, but its own investigation later found hemorrhaging around the dead whales' eyes and ears, indicating severe acoustic trauma. The government's study of the incident established with virtual certainty that the strandings in the Bahamas had been caused by mid-frequency active sonar used by Navy ships passing through the area. Since the incident, the area's population of beaked whales has disappeared, leading researchers to conclude that they abandoned their habitat or died at sea."


"But whales and other marine life are not yet safe from Department of Defense activities. In the greatest single rollback of marine mammal protections in the last 30 years, Congress approved legislation in November 2003 that will exempt the U.S. military from core provisions of the Marine Mammal Protection Act and the Endangered Species Act. It will now be far easier for the U.S. military to harass and kill whales, dolphins and other marine mammals with high-intensity sonar and underwater explosives. The new exemptions are unlikely to affect the court's ruling on LFA sonar because the Bush administration violated so many different laws in approving that particular system. But the Navy is considering the wider deployment of other, equally dangerous sonar systems"

http://www.nrdc.org/wildlife/marine/nlfa.asp#

We have known for at least 15 years (as long back as I remember reading in Scientific American Magazine) this type of thing:

JUST AS ENRON and other off-sheet accounting debacles spelled disaster for many US investors, evidence shows that global warming could do the same. Without aggressive action to reduce the financial risks that global warming poses for companies, trillions of dollars of Americans' investments, many of them controlled here in Boston, will be jeopardized.

Global warming is a reality that is already putting the financial pinch on weather-dependent businesses. In New England, maple syrup producers are reeling from another dismal sap season. The region's ski resorts are losing tens of millions of dollars every winter there is reduced snowfall. Meanwhile, worldwide insurance claims for extreme weather events and disasters like drought and forest fires have jumped tenfold in the last 40 years, hitting $55 billion in 2002. So serious is this issue that the world's second-largest reinsurer, Swiss Re, is telling its corporate clients to come up with strategies for handling global warming or risk losing their liability coverage.

Check out this site, if you dare to confront your beliefs :
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/pu...cle_7234.shtml

Critical Analysis

For REAL enquiring minds:
newscientist

Scientific American

Science magazine

[EJRS.COM]

Thanks MikMik for pointing out that I have erred and strayed away. I am human still and will be days I fail, but woe is me if I fail to be teachable, and continue down that road.

[mikmik]

Me to, my friend.
I make mistakes, and from them I have made friends to.

I think we are both having something else on our plates these days.

I have 100% respect for you.

[mikmik]

And i feel bad about making such a big deal.

Please accept my apology.

I will ask paulhiles to remove my posts from your thread, and find something good for your Beautiful websites.
Goodnight ERJS.COM