Still not evil: Instant search a natural next step after Caffeine, but

[kgun]

1. Background

This

Caffeine Is Live

A careful reading of the cited materials reveals that Caffeine has nothing to do with either the data captured/indexed or the SERP algorithm itself, but rather is a new processing platform that is speedier than the old.

Yes, they call it a "new indexing system." No change to ranking factors. Rather it's a significantly increased ability to crawl faster, index more quickly and store more, etc.

Not Just Live But Instant Search Results Being Tested

The end of SEO and long tails?

From a birds eye point of view, this is very simple if you know the model view control pattern invented by Norwegian Trygve M. H. Reenskaug.

The ranking algorithm is as I understand it the same. Google has only changed the view. Some mean it is more user friendly some not. The majority of surfers will most probably think it makes Google faster and better. More advanced user may see it as a disadvantage and will turn it off.

If it is not made for the Norwegian browser Opera a lot of people will simply not use it because:
They will stick to their favourite browser
that some people like me think is the most secure browser.
It will have search effects for surfers of the involved browsers, simply because you search differently. It does not imply the end of SEO. Only the presentation of results has changed so far.

Very interesting reading, especially the comments:

How to make Google Instant work in Opera

Google browser sniffing and the Open Web

As well as being a valuable partner to Opera, with the release of Google Chrome, Google has also become a competitor. We welcome that as more competitors means more innovation, and less likelihood that the Web will be dominated by one single vendor.

However, now Google has become a competitor with its own self interests in promoting its own browser, it brings new responsibility.

2. The responsibility of a company that has as it's motto not being evil.

Finally, we see in practice what some of us may have thought when Google launced their own browser and became a browser competitor. As an economist, I have always thought that American anti trust / competitive laws are stronger than European. Are there information in the news that indicate the opposite? It should be easy for the programmers at Google to deliver instant search by default or...

3. Are these random events?

Google Instant Search And Short Cut Keys

See post #22

But other readers of this thread may be interested in the subject, so

1. I assume that you downloaded this http://www.opera.com/mobile/ software.
2. If yes, go to http://www.opera.com/ and mouse over the Community, Developer and Company menu.
3. Search engine query: "samsung galaxy S" AND "opera mini" OR "opera mobile"

P.S.

If you follow Matt Cutts [twitter.com/mattcutts] on twitter, you will note this [mattcutts.com/blog/browser/] recent blog post about a PC mag article regarding browsers. I am far from convinced.

If you listen to Cnn, you will note that Samsung advertices that Galaxy S is the best android mobile solution ever.

Back to topic:

If you look at a instant query SERPs in FF and the traditional SERPs in Opera, you will of course note that the final SERPs are identical in both browsers for the same query.

4. Google Instant is trying to kill me

Source:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...google-instant

At around 2pm, Google announced the final straw.

I'm starting to feel like an unwitting test subject in a global experiment conducted by Google, in which it attempts to discover how much raw information it can inject directly into my hippocampus before I crumple to the floor and start fitting uncontrollably.

That afternoon, it unveiled a new feature called Google Instant. It delivers search results before you've finished typing them. So now, if I visit Google and start typing my own name, it shows me links to Craigslist the moment I hit "C". When I add the "H", up pops the homepage for Chase online banking. By the time I've spelt out "Charlie", I'm presented with a synopsis and review score for "Charlie St Cloud", a film starring Zac Efron. Add a "Br" and Charlie Brown gazes back at me.

P.S. The reason for the down thumb of this thread is that now Google have rolled out a new platform that by default discriminate between browsers.

I am Norwegian, so I am biased Any independent comments?

[morestar]

I will say though kgun, that Google wouldn't be considered Evil if they did leave our support for Opera. As a business they should be able to do as they like with their business and their products. There is not much evil about that.

The reason Google is so popular is because it provides a decent service that became more and more popular by it's users. With that said, simply because Google is the most successful and largest search engine in the world, it doesn't mean they have to make sure all their products and services work with others.

We all seem to try to touch on the cliche about Microsoft not being open source or dominating the market by installing their software as default into their OS. I'm of the crowd that doesn't blame Microsoft for doing such things as in my opinion it is their OS.

Either way, if support for Opera is against Google's business model with respect to Chrome I see no reason to support it. Again I am still wondering if it's an Opera problem and not Google as IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome work well with Instant.

Tell me kgun, do you believe Google has it out for Opera!?

[mjtaylor]

I have to say I don't see Google as evil, either. They are simply trying to make a buck. They owe nothing to any group or institution other than their stockholders. They are a US of A company doing business in the US of A way. We live in a corporatacracy and if we don't like it, perhaps we can learn to spend our money and our votes differently. Trouble is, most Americans are very, very greedy and very used to their creature comforts not to mention their guilty pleasures. I don't except myself from this generalization. And I don't see me changing quickly. Or much at all.

I watched everyone jump on the BP is evil bandwagon and I shook my head. The citizens of Louisiana made that choice, the people who drive autos in the US made the choice that led there. But no one wants to blame themselves or change. Much easier to be a victim and sit on the pity pot feeling self righteous.

Maybe I just like Google because it has always liked me well enough, but I just don't see them as evil. I see them as smart.

[kgun]

Tell me kgun, do you believe Google has it out for Opera!?

1. Do you know what browser sniffing is an how easy it can be for a platform to block / allow an user agent?
2. But Opera is so advanced that you can use it as if it is FireFox, and then ... You can even start chrome from Opera.
3. Do you know what anti trust laws are and how strong they have been traditionally in the USA?

[kgun]

I watched everyone jump on the BP is evil bandwagon and I shook my head.

1. You can not compare an accident and unfair competition under a company's control.
2. See my answer to morestar.

[kgun]

Trouble is, most Americans are very, very greedy and very used to their creature comforts not to mention their guilty pleasures.

You may know more about that than me, but if I know corporate America, I think Google will wish they had never made "instant search" exclusively for American browsers.

[morestar]

1. Do you know what browser sniffing is an how easy it can be for a platform to block / allow a referrer?
2. Do you know what anti trust laws are and how strong they have been traditionally in the USA?

1. You can not compare an accident and unfair competition under a company's control.
2. See my answer to morestar.

I see, I see, I DO see...I obviously know a website can sniff out a browser but just couldn't see how many people who have to be suspect to this knowledge and how long it could be kept a secret? That's my question.

I see anti-trust laws being thrown all over the place. Is Google being sued for violations of anti-trust laws?

[kgun]

Hiding Opera's Identity from Certain Sites

Very easy. Done in seconds to identify Opera as FF or IE. I have only tested FF and you get Instant search for Google.com.

For the rest of the web, you can use Opera's advanced and rich features (like choose among as many search engines as you wan't in the browsers search field):

CTRL + F12 + Search + Add

http://help.opera.com/Windows/10.60/nb/search.html

Try mine: http://www.surftoolbar.com/

In the upper left corner choose search windows. Then in Opera try Tile and Overlap. Great if you use more than one screen and / or big screens.

[kgun]

I see anti-trust laws being thrown all over the place. Is Google being sued for violations of anti-trust laws?

As an economist I see it as a clear violations of anti-trust laws. I am not a lawyer.

[HighFalutin]

I'm still not sure I like this. With each letter typed you get a different return and as each word is completed, different results. I have noticed a drop off in traffic to my site. One of my main keywords is debt consolidation; my thinking is if I target just debt I will have a better chance of coming up first for any topic debt related and and therefore more traffic and hopefully retain my normal ranking under debt consolidation as well.

Any thoughts on this, anyone?