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    Re: Do you play the Domain Game???

    I have a terrific name portfolio and have made a second salary on names. But I spend almost no time on the search/acquisition. I just keep my eyes open!

    Some stuff to keep an eye on:

    * trademark. New domainers, please don't go buy a name containing someone's trademark. There simply is no excuse and you will lose the name (without compensation and possibly with legal costs). And if you think you can just "flip" a name with a trademark to someone else and run with the money, think again. You can still be liable for damages caused AFTER you sold the name. You essentially become an accessory to a crime. Not worth it!

    * private name registrations overconfidence. It's a simple matter to get access to the real owner of a name with the right legal paperwork. This is not a good hiding place.

    * Only Invest in dot-com. If you can buy a good non-dot-com at street price, hey, go for it. But the non-dot-com names need to be highly strategic (e.g. completing a name packages) if you're spending much on them.

    * Avoid Administrative Overhead. Get all your names on a system that automates your domain renewals and use a tool to keep track of the whole list. If you end up spending hours a week just doing administrative crap, you're losing money in time.

    * Be careful if you've ever dabbled in Afternic or Sedo. Make sure you keep all of your prices consistent and up-to-date. If the value of your name has gone up, and your price is years old on one of the auction site, you just reduced the perceived value of the name to the buyer.

    * lock all names and whitelist your registrar's domain name. I use an outlook rule to put up a big alert when any kind of message about a name comes in.

    * I think Dba's are better than private registrations and look more professional and less spooky. Get a dba for your corporation, call it "acme domain holdings inc." and put it on the names. Use domains@dbaholdings.comfor your email and have it filtered by spamstopshere.com There is no better spam filter on the market.

    * Use Form Filler Tools. Save yourself hours by using roboform to fill in information during registration and other administrative tasks.

    * Use escrow.com. If a buyer won't do pre-pay, use escrow.com and make them foot the bill. It's usually about $30-50.

    * Don't sign long contracts. Domain sales should be simple. If they won't use a simple letter, tell them you need to add $200 to the sale to cover the costs of having your attorney review the agreement. I was handed a FOUR page domain sale agreement once. I grumbled. The contract became a one page letter 2 days later. Done deal, everyone's happy. It turns out that the reasons many sales agreements are so long for domains is many attorneys have never been involved in a domain sale before. I later found out the 4 pager was a boilerplate for the sale of a PATENT!

    Some government organizations may want you to sign a "single source letter" which is cool. This is because they usually have to get three bids on things, but for domains there is only one source - you. These are usually really simple and you can't get around them. It's also cool to sign something saying that you are the only one who owns a name. Nobody wants to hear about a secret owner coming out of the woodwork later. My Godaddy rep did a nice job answering questions on a large $ sale for me. I just conferenced him in with the "confused" buyer and let them ask about what constituted ownership. This shows I have nothing to hide.

    * Don't let big $$$ make you stupid. When money is being exchanged, some folks' writing hand goes into "sign whatever" mode. Once the buyer tried to slip in text that said they could ask for their money back anytime within 90 days as an addendum.

    * Don't actually transfer the name until your bank shows their check amount went in and cleared. This happens electronically and you should be able to see it within 24 hours at most banks. Cashiers checks should make it faster but they don't usually.

    * Actually have the buyer take the name to a different registrar account and remove you completely from the contacts. Make this an open and closed deal. DO NOT remain connected to the domain name you just sold or you might find yourself in a mixed up pile of crap someday. Send a confirmation of completed transfer via registered mail or just use email and ask for a reply.

    Hope those tips help!

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    Re: Do you play the Domain Game???

    Quote Originally Posted by sitecreations View Post
    I have a terrific name portfolio and have made a second salary on names. But I spend almost no time on the search/acquisition. I just keep my eyes open!

    Some stuff to keep an eye on:

    * trademark. New domainers, please don't go buy a name containing someone's trademark. There simply is no excuse and you will lose the name (without compensation and possibly with legal costs). And if you think you can just "flip" a name with a trademark to someone else and run with the money, think again. You can still be liable for damages caused AFTER you sold the name. You essentially become an accessory to a crime. Not worth it!

    * private name registrations overconfidence. It's a simple matter to get access to the real owner of a name with the right legal paperwork. This is not a good hiding place.

    * Only Invest in dot-com. If you can buy a good non-dot-com at street price, hey, go for it. But the non-dot-com names need to be highly strategic (e.g. completing a name packages) if you're spending much on them.

    * Avoid Administrative Overhead. Get all your names on a system that automates your domain renewals and use a tool to keep track of the whole list. If you end up spending hours a week just doing administrative crap, you're losing money in time.

    * Be careful if you've ever dabbled in Afternic or Sedo. Make sure you keep all of your prices consistent and up-to-date. If the value of your name has gone up, and your price is years old on one of the auction site, you just reduced the perceived value of the name to the buyer.

    * lock all names and whitelist your registrar's domain name. I use an outlook rule to put up a big alert when any kind of message about a name comes in.

    * I think Dba's are better than private registrations and look more professional and less spooky. Get a dba for your corporation, call it "acme domain holdings inc." and put it on the names. Use domains@dbaholdings.comfor your email and have it filtered by spamstopshere.com There is no better spam filter on the market.

    * Use Form Filler Tools. Save yourself hours by using roboform to fill in information during registration and other administrative tasks.

    * Use escrow.com. If a buyer won't do pre-pay, use escrow.com and make them foot the bill. It's usually about $30-50.

    * Don't sign long contracts. Domain sales should be simple. If they won't use a simple letter, tell them you need to add $200 to the sale to cover the costs of having your attorney review the agreement. I was handed a FOUR page domain sale agreement once. I grumbled. The contract became a one page letter 2 days later. Done deal, everyone's happy. It turns out that the reasons many sales agreements are so long for domains is many attorneys have never been involved in a domain sale before. I later found out the 4 pager was a boilerplate for the sale of a PATENT!

    Some government organizations may want you to sign a "single source letter" which is cool. This is because they usually have to get three bids on things, but for domains there is only one source - you. These are usually really simple and you can't get around them. It's also cool to sign something saying that you are the only one who owns a name. Nobody wants to hear about a secret owner coming out of the woodwork later. My Godaddy rep did a nice job answering questions on a large $ sale for me. I just conferenced him in with the "confused" buyer and let them ask about what constituted ownership. This shows I have nothing to hide.

    * Don't let big $$$ make you stupid. When money is being exchanged, some folks' writing hand goes into "sign whatever" mode. Once the buyer tried to slip in text that said they could ask for their money back anytime within 90 days as an addendum.

    * Don't actually transfer the name until your bank shows their check amount went in and cleared. This happens electronically and you should be able to see it within 24 hours at most banks. Cashiers checks should make it faster but they don't usually.

    * Actually have the buyer take the name to a different registrar account and remove you completely from the contacts. Make this an open and closed deal. DO NOT remain connected to the domain name you just sold or you might find yourself in a mixed up pile of crap someday. Send a confirmation of completed transfer via registered mail or just use email and ask for a reply.

    Hope those tips help!
    Great tips!
    Thanks for posting them. I have recently jumped into the name game and after reading some of the other posts I decided to order all but 3 of the TLD's for one of my domains. If the reg fee goes down I'll buy them too.
    I now have 27 names, some are TLD packages. Let's hope I make some money on them.

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    Re: Do you play the Domain Game???

    hmm ... my names are:

    armchairtravelvideo.com/
    youarethetraveler.com
    youarethetraveller.com
    mysterioustravel.com
    mysterytravelguide.com
    mysterytravelguides.com
    virtualwanderlust.com
    icelandicstories.com
    budgeticeland.com
    oldebook.com
    webjourneyman.com
    infotainme.com
    seeanddo.info
    webjourneyman.info
    personalturnaround.com
    themysterious.net
    dularfullt.net

    A pretty small collection, each with an idea for a website behind it. Wonder it that could increase its walue? Or if making, if only a micro site or automated blog with f.eks. open source content and/or affiliate ads, would automatically increase the names value?

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    Re: Do you play the Domain Game???

    just buy good domains and hope someone will buy you out while have for sale sign on the site 24/7

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    Re: Do you play the Domain Game???

    Buying domains can be very profitable if you just buy quality domains.

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    Re: Do you play the Domain Game???

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Buquet View Post
    Welcome to our brand new Domain Name Forum!
    I am the mod and host for this forum and the Affiliate Marketing forum.

    Do you play the Domain Game???

    If you own a web site, you probably have played the game at least once when you launched your site and searched feverishly for the perfect name.

    If you are an affiliate, you've probably had to play the game a few times times and continue to play the game every time you build a new site.

    If you're an online marketer or web designer you probably play the game all the time, but sometimes with other people's money.

    A good, memorable domain name is the foundation of every great web presence. Some people buy domain names for their own web site, some buy them for fun, some for profit, some even invest in them, and play them like the stock market - but needless to say, lots of people play the domain game in one way or another.

    A while back I got into the domain game, and now I’m totally, helplessly hooked. Researching, finding, buying and selling domain names, has become an addiction for me - just like going to Vegas is for some people. I dream up new domain names in my sleep and every TV commercial gives me a new domain name idea. My friends are starting to call me the “Domainiac.” The other day I got an email from a business associate addressed to “Whois Linda!”

    So I figured I'd share my passion, addiction, resources, and tools in this new WebProWorld forum, so we can all play the game together. After all, domains are the foundation of everything web and this IS WebProWorld, right?

    Here are a couple good general domain name resources to get us started:

    Domain Name Journal - The Industry News Magazine at DNJournal.com
    Domain Names - WebDeveloper.com
    Internet Goldrush : Domain Name News and Information

    Remember this is YOUR forum so let us know what topics you would like to discuss such as domain keyword tools, good value Registrars, domain valuations, how do you grab good expired domains, what are the best places and ways to sell a domain for top dollar.

    So do you play “The Game”?

    What are some of your favorite tricks of the trade? Need help brainstorming a new URL? Where is the best place to register domains or sell them? What do you think of the newer domain extensions like .biz and .tv? Have you ever made a great score? Tell us about it!!!

    Hello,
    I really wanna play a game and i will do it once. Thanks for your information .

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    Re: Do you play the Domain Game???

    I have 38 to my name and have to admit that about 15 of them are duds, no idea what I was thinking when I bought them So am slowly giving them away on one of my sites. But its strange this domain game, I had one that no one was interested in buying, then a bloke comes along and buys if off me for $100, gave me a shock as I couldnt get rid of the thing for $20.

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    Re: Do you play the Domain Game???

    Any advice on the best place to sell domains?

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    Question Re: Do you play the Domain Game???

    hello, I'm quite new to the domain game and could use a bit help?!? I've got a domain that I would like to sell that appraises with network solutions between $10,000 and $13,000. Where is the best place to put this up for sale and how does the process work exactly! I have the domain through Godaddy.............Any and all help would be truly appreciated, thanks, Scott

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