View Full Version : Which Browser Renders Your Work As Expected? Chrome, IE Or Firefox?
morestar
03-14-2010, 06:30 PM
So lately, as I'm testing my work in each of the three mentioned browsers (Chrome, Internet Explorer and Firefox) that I'm seeing what I expect or should see the best in Chrome.
:cool:
In the past - the last several years I've seen the best results in Firefox and IE always gave me problems. This is a rarity for me mind you as everything usually and generally works out just fine but lately, every so often, I come across an alignment, height or margin issue but everything looks just Great in Google Chrome.
Am I the only one experiencing this?
dunivan
03-15-2010, 11:08 AM
no, i used have everything looking great in firefox, and then ie would totally destroy it.
since i swithched to safari, I think i have more uniformity across safari, firefox, and chrome, but IE still will throw me snags, usually in positioning.
morestar
03-15-2010, 01:35 PM
IE's always the last browser in my memory to test in. I test in the others too sometimes...usually as an after thought, nothing against them either...i enjoy having multiple browsers but Chrome seems to be picking up my CSS just the way I plan it to much more these days...
morestar
03-15-2010, 01:37 PM
I cannot believe I typed excepted rather than expected...
:palm:
Christiaan
03-15-2010, 07:09 PM
I cannot believe I typed excepted rather than expected...
:palm:
Aren't spellcheckers great?
At least that is one service that can't read your intentions.
About intentions, if one is an author of web pages, they should test these pages with ALL browsers.
It is not the browser that the author uses that is important.
It is the browsers used by the crowds of people who visit the site that is important.
They are or could become your client.
Have to say that I don't find Chrome any better than Safari or Opera. I still design for Firefox and providing I have that correct, most other browsers fall into line. IE6 which thankfully is no almost defunct, may need tweaking to remove unwanted extra spaces.
The old mantra stil works for me. Build the site correctly and the browsers fall into place.
If you are finding that Chrome is rendering correctly and Firefox isn't, then there is an error somewhere in your code.
Cheers
Ian
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It is not the browser that the author uses that is important.
It is the browsers used by the crowds of people who visit the site that is important.
Amen to that. It's the very reason we shpuld be trying to make our sites cross browser compliant.
Ian
morestar
03-15-2010, 07:16 PM
Absolutely, like no matter if the number of people that use IE6 is so low you must still make sure you work renders properly in that browser.
As I've mentioned before, I rarely have this problem especially if I code with tables for layouts but when I do Google Chrome seems to know exactly what I am intending and renders my code properly.
I supposed setting all margins and padding to 0 at the top of our CSS file would make everything nice and tidy with all browsers but even if doing so benefits my work a lot Chrome likes to obey my CSS commands the best so far and lately.
I say lately as I'm truly seeing display differences from time to time with each of the browsers but I'm wondering if there's a browser update and I do so if that changes the engine within the browser that interprets your HTML and CSS code - not sure...
Maybe deepsand will visit this post and let us know...
astro
03-16-2010, 02:13 AM
Absolutely, like no matter if the number of people that use IE6 is so low you must still make sure you work renders properly in that browser.
As I've mentioned before, I rarely have this problem especially if I code with tables for layouts but when I do Google Chrome seems to know exactly what I am intending and renders my code properly.
I have to mention this and expect dolls of me to have pins inserted globally.
I look at my site stats for all of my sites and get similar results. Here are the stats for one of my sites.
Month Unique visitors Number of visits Pages Hits Bandwidth
Jan 2010 1845 2576 7078 104390 2.44 GB
Feb 2010 1736 2802 11882 177768 3.63 GB
Mar 2010 890 1121 4849 69108 1.12 GB
Here are the browsers for the same period that visited the site.
MS Internet Explorer No 59247 85.7 %
Firefox No 6030 8.7 %
Safari No 1728 2.5 %
Google Chrome No 1386 2 %
Mozilla No 436 0.6 %
Opera No 210 0.3 %
Unknown ? 63 0 %
Netscape No 8 0 %
Are my sites unique? Why trash Gates's IE? It is your biggest visitor. Certainly mine!
Radical I may be, but I still design for windows and internet explorer, then try to accommodate the others. But do not waste much time trying! I do wonder at times if too much effort is put into designing for the minor browsers and I believe dismissing the market leader (no matter which version of IE) out of hand whilst fashionable amongst the industry is to say the least rash.
I do not know for sure but would hazard a guess that the .3%, .6%, 2% and 2.5% visitors were associated with computers, web design or SEO. The 85.7% of visitors were the great unwashed and my potential clients!!
And I love 'em to death
/astro
I look at my site stats for all of my sites and get similar results. Here are the stats for one of my sites.
Here are the browsers for the same period that visited the site.
MS Internet Explorer No 59247 85.7 %
Firefox No 6030 8.7 %
Safari No 1728 2.5 %
Google Chrome No 1386 2 %
Mozilla No 436 0.6 %
Opera No 210 0.3 %
Unknown ? 63 0 %
Netscape No 8 0 %
Are my sites unique? Why trash Gates's IE? It is your biggest visitor. Certainly mine!
Radical I may be, but I still design for windows and internet explorer, then try to accommodate the others. But do not waste much time trying! I do wonder at times if too much effort is put into designing for the minor browsers and I believe dismissing the market leader (no matter which version of IE) out of hand whilst fashionable amongst the industry is to say the least rash.
I do not know for sure but would hazard a guess that the .3%, .6%, 2% and 2.5% visitors were associated with computers, web design or SEO. The 85.7% of visitors were the great unwashed and my potential clients!!
And I love 'em to death
/astro
Couple of points here. Nobody is disputing that Internet Explorer is still around, all I was saying was that IE6 is almost defunct - thank goodness. If IE8 had been around earlier (like after IE5.5, FF et al would not have become so popular - so they only have themselves to blame.
I have found that it is still easier to make sites that work in Firefox. As it happens they then work fine in IE8. The IE6 and IE7 are then relatively easy to tweak. Doing the other way around is a nightmare. Life in browser land is difficult enough so why not make it easy for yourself?
Cheers
Ian
Clarrie
03-16-2010, 06:09 AM
For quite a while now I've been using Opera as my main browser and particularly for testing - mostly because it was the most standards insistent. In the past if you got it right in Opera it'd be right in pretty much anything (except IE6 of course).
In most recent browser versions the differences seem very small, and I tend to find Opera, Chrome, and IE8 are the most consistently similar, but different Firefox versions can have slightly different renderings of text alignment - nothing major, only a pixel or two, but noticeable when comparing different browsers. Which of course most users don't.
cg0404
03-17-2010, 01:44 PM
I have to mention this and expect dolls of me to have pins inserted globally.
Here are the browsers for the same period that visited the site.
MS Internet Explorer No 59247 85.7 %
Firefox No 6030 8.7 %
Safari No 1728 2.5 %
Google Chrome No 1386 2 %
Mozilla No 436 0.6 %
Opera No 210 0.3 %
Unknown ? 63 0 %
Netscape No 8 0 %
Are my sites unique? Why trash Gates's IE? It is your biggest visitor. Certainly mine!
Radical I may be, but I still design for windows and internet explorer, then try to accommodate the others. But do not waste much time trying! I do wonder at times if too much effort is put into designing for the minor browsers and I believe dismissing the market leader (no matter which version of IE) out of hand whilst fashionable amongst the industry is to say the least rash.
I do not know for sure but would hazard a guess that the .3%, .6%, 2% and 2.5% visitors were associated with computers, web design or SEO. The 85.7% of visitors were the great unwashed and my potential clients!!
And I love 'em to death
/astro
I agree with your numbers above and your focus. I personally, hate MSIE, but unfortunately, it does have most the market and I see similar numbers in the visits to my client sites as well. I test in MSIE, Firefox, Safari, Google Chrome and Opera and at different resolutions. The bottom line really is, "does it render?" I start testing in MSIE as if it does not render there, I have lost about 80% of people coming to my sites.
Having just looked at IE9 preview with its CSS3 capability, maybe MS is finally getting the message.
Other major fly in ointment is that IE is whatever form, will no longer be automatically installed on new computers. Will be interesting to see what folks download for preference.
Cheers
Ian
allisonays
03-18-2010, 03:26 PM
I have tried using Chrome, at first I was amazed by its feature and have enjoyed using it browsing sites and make it more easy to post my blogs on different blog sites because it is easy to navigate, after a month of using it, i have encountered problem that is really very annoying which make my posting jobs really slow. Every time I click on a link or submit my articles the page was directed to nowhere and need to refresh the page and start all over again. And that is the time i switched on using firefox.
For quite a while now I've been using Opera as my main browser and particularly for testing - mostly because it was the most standards insistent.
Most probably you are correct: Opera: Web Standards Curriculum (http://www.opera.com/company/education/curriculum/)
Test your browser here: Detect keystrokes and test if you use a W3C DOM compliant browser. (http://www.kjellbleivik.com/bt.htm)
"While the Norway-based company has focused on the European market, according to StatCounter GlobalStats in March 2010 Opera was the biggest browser in Russia with a market share of 32.76%, beating Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome and Safari".
Source: BBC News - Microsoft Choice screen boosts Opera browser (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8574883.stm)
weegillis
09-29-2010, 10:37 PM
Thread is past its best before date. Time for a new topic. Thread closed.