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weblover50
10-31-2009, 06:36 AM
hi,

I have a doubt, links from blogs like xyz.wordpress.com, xyz.blogger.com, xyz.wetpaint.com are do-follow links or no follow links?

weblover50
11-01-2009, 07:24 AM
if they are do follow, I have placed few links in xyz.wordpress.com, but these links are not seen when I check for the backlinks of the site @ backlinkswatch.com

innominds
11-01-2009, 07:46 AM
Have you checked in Google webmaster tools?

Doc
11-01-2009, 11:05 AM
At xyz.wordpress.com, you will find that OBLs are NOFOLLOW. However, at blogs hosted on individual websites, it is up to the site owner to decide whether to NOFOLLOW or not. (There may be a default setting with some canned programs... I don't know.)

There are tools (such as Quirk SearchStatus, which is a FireFox add-on) which will highlight NOFOLLOW links on a page, in order to know for sure.

janeth
11-01-2009, 06:24 PM
At xyz.wordpress.com, you will find that OBLs are NOFOLLOW. However, at blogs hosted on individual websites, it is up to the site owner to decide whether to NOFOLLOW or not. (There may be a default setting with some canned programs... I don't know.)

There are tools (such as Quirk SearchStatus, which is a FireFox add-on) which will highlight NOFOLLOW links on a page, in order to know for sure.

Yes, if you host the blog you can set the blog up to follow but they come set up with NOFOLLOW. There is a plug in for wordpress.

I also believe there is a way to make the post follow on some of the sites hosted on the free hosting sites.

shakir
11-02-2009, 08:50 AM
Have you checked in Google webmaster tools?
oh Google webmaster tool will take long time to index the link some time not index.. Better use some third party tool like backlinkwatch

MayaLocke
11-02-2009, 09:35 AM
If you use Firefox there is a plugin that you can use to determine if links are nofollow or dofollow.

Nobby
11-02-2009, 09:57 AM
If you use Firefox there is a plugin that you can use to determine if links are nofollow or dofollow.


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5687

Its a simple but very handy plugin, i use it a fair bit.

Doc
11-02-2009, 10:39 AM
This one will do that, and much more: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=searchstatus&cat=all

SemAdvance
11-02-2009, 04:35 PM
1. There is no such thing as Dofollow. Misinformation abounds on the Internet.

2. I believe Wordpress default is rel=nofollow so you need to install a plug in to make the blog where the OBL will have trust.

3. What happens when PageRank disappears??? Will the tag still be effective. I doubt that it works properly now so I do not see it being truly effective in the future.

murphypj
11-02-2009, 05:19 PM
No I didn.. i will check out there..


I have thousands of links from blogs ( mostly Blogger ) showing in my Google Webmaster Tools backlinks.

I sincerely hope they carry some value, as I've spent the past few weeks contacting the owners ( in about 16 different languages - gotta love Google Translate - ) to change their links to my new domain.

murphypj
11-02-2009, 05:21 PM
1. There is no such thing as Dofollow. Misinformation abounds on the Internet.

2. I believe Wordpress default is rel=nofollow so you need to install a plug in to make the blog where the OBL will have trust.

3. What happens when PageRank disappears??? Will the tag still be effective. I doubt that it works properly now so I do not see it being truly effective in the future.

Semadvance. Even assuming PageRank ( as a concept, entity, metric ) has or will disappear, is it not pretty likely that backlinks will continue to factor largely into the SE algos?

Doc
11-02-2009, 06:32 PM
My two cents worth :

"Pagerank", per se, may someday cease to exist, but the SEs will still be "ranking" pages in some fashion, whatever they choose to call it. And links will certainly still have to play a part in determining SERP position.

bosmolskate
11-02-2009, 08:10 PM
It is always good to check the page source code to see if the links have the no follow tag added. You can switch the no follow tag on or off by changing the coding to your blog. I have set up all my blogs to have do follow links. This causes some spammers, but I can fight them off for now, until it becomes too much. Right now my blog does not seem to be spammed too much and it encourages readers to comment and engage in discussion.

Feel free to leave some comments in my blogs at:
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Enjoy the link juice!

deepsand
11-02-2009, 10:16 PM
Even assuming PageRank ( as a concept, entity, metric ) has or will disappear, is it not pretty likely that backlinks will continue to factor largely into the SE algos?


"Pagerank", per se, may someday cease to exist, but the SEs will still be "ranking" pages in some fashion, whatever they choose to call it. And links will certainly still have to play a part in determining SERP position.
No matter what it's called, if IBLs paly a role in SERP Rank, then such effect can still be called PR.

As for whether or not IBLs continue to play such role remains to be seen. It is theoretically possible to design an SE that will not only return highly relevant results without IBLs providing any input, but that are in fact superior.

Doc
11-02-2009, 11:03 PM
It is theoretically possible to design an SE that will not only return highly relevant results without IBLs providing any input, but that are in fact superior.

We'll just have to continue to play the current game, until someone decides it's economically feasible to do so. ;)

VanessaA
11-03-2009, 06:31 AM
Thanks!! That's what I need to know.whatever i know is wordpress is by default no follow.
wordpress Nofollow SEO-Plugin allows you to decide whether to follow or not follow links in blog comments.

Clint1
11-03-2009, 07:17 AM
This one will do that, and much more: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=searchstatus&cat=all
What about the one you mentioned in another thread, Quirk SearchStatus (http://www.quirk.biz/searchstatus/), that one seems to do loads.

mizzcain
11-03-2009, 09:03 AM
nofollow is still considered as backlink, its just that dofollow weighs more

Doc
11-03-2009, 10:25 AM
What about the one you mentioned in another thread, Quirk SearchStatus (http://www.quirk.biz/searchstatus/), that one seems to do loads.

One and the same, Clint. Have you tried it out? Lots of good stuff there, although I can't say how "complete" the data is, as compared to other tools. I haven't spotted any discrepancies, though.

Clint1
11-03-2009, 10:42 AM
One and the same, Clint. Have you tried it out? Lots of good stuff there, although I can't say how "complete" the data is, as compared to other tools. I haven't spotted any discrepancies, though.
Ah. :palm: I didn't even realize they were the same! :oops: I didn't see "Quirk" on the page so I thought they were different. Yeah I tried it as soon as I saw you other post, that's why I said "wow". It's a great extension.

deepsand
11-03-2009, 07:33 PM
nofollow is still considered as backlink, ...
Not by those SEs which heed it. How many SEs ignore such? And, which ones?


its just that dofollow weighs more
There's no such thing as dofollow.

deepsand
11-03-2009, 08:01 PM
One and the same, Clint. Have you tried it out? Lots of good stuff there, although I can't say how "complete" the data is, as compared to other tools. I haven't spotted any discrepancies, though.
Nice tool.

However, I couldn't find the download for the additional time needed for thoroughly exploring it. ;)

Doc
11-03-2009, 08:26 PM
Nice tool.

However, I couldn't find the download for the additional time needed for thoroughly exploring it. ;)

Here ya go, mate!

http://cumbriansky.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/time-machine.jpg

deepsand
11-03-2009, 08:28 PM
So, you're the one that's been hogging the Wayback Machine. :cry:

Doc
11-04-2009, 11:36 AM
Nice tool.


AW!

Yer makin' me blush! :lol:

deepsand
11-04-2009, 02:31 PM
Didn't know that that was possible. ;)

janeth
11-07-2009, 09:37 AM
1. There is no such thing as Dofollow.

If there is no-follow then there has to be Dofollow or there would be no reason for nofollow.

There is no Dofollow tag, but there are dofollow links.


Misinformation abounds on the Internet.

Yes, it does.

janeth
11-07-2009, 09:38 AM
Semadvance. Even assuming PageRank ( as a concept, entity, metric ) has or will disappear, is it not pretty likely that backlinks will continue to factor largely into the SE algos?

And what will take the place of backlinks?

janeth
11-07-2009, 09:40 AM
nofollow is still considered as backlink, its just that dofollow weighs more

And where is this information coming from?

Clint1
11-07-2009, 09:42 AM
If there is no-follow then there has to be Dofollow or there would be no reason for nofollow.

There is no Dofollow tag, but there are dofollow links.

I believe what he's saying is "do follow" is implied: regular links are followed therefore are "do follow" but a tag as such doesn't exist.

Clint1
11-07-2009, 09:44 AM
And what will take the place of backlinks?
Hopefully nothing!

http://www.delawareonline.com/blogs/uploaded_images/crank_yankers_yay-737929.jpg

:lol:

Clint1
11-07-2009, 09:50 AM
And where is this information coming from?

I don't know where the post is right now, but in it I mentioned that if you check your G WMT's IBL area you will see webpages that link to you, that indeed have the rel=nofollow tag. (That is of course only if those webpages link to your site. ;-)) So the links are "seen", but how they are, or if they are, actually "counted" for something other than just a simple IBL, is anyone's guess.

janeth
11-07-2009, 09:57 AM
I believe what he's saying is "do follow" is implied: regular links are followed therefore are "do follow" but a tag as such doesn't exist.

There is no tag but there are dofollow links.

janeth
11-07-2009, 09:58 AM
I don't know where the post is right now, but in it I mentioned that if you check your G WMT's IBL area you will see webpages that link to you, that indeed have the rel=nofollow tag. (That is of course only if those webpages link to your site. ;-)) So the links are "seen", but how they are, or if they are, actually "counted" for something other than just a simple IBL, is anyone's guess.

As you said, seeing them and counting them are two different things.

Clint1
11-07-2009, 10:15 AM
There is no tag but there are dofollow links.
:confused: Yeah, that's what I said; all links that don't have a nofollow attribute on them or elsewhere on the page, could be considered "do follow", because they are followed. ;)

Clint1
11-07-2009, 10:30 AM
As you said, seeing them and counting them are two different things.
Yes. But they are apparently being "counted", otherwise they wouldn't be showing up in the IBL list, being counted as an IBL. But the big question is just how are they being counted.

Let's look at the facts.....(or I guess I should say, the fact is), obviously they are being counted as an IBL due to their presence in the WMT IBL area. So if I had to guess, and going from what the rel=nofollow attribute's name implies; they are just not following those links. So any pages on the domains' links that are rel=nofollow'd are not being spidered. I can conclude, that the rel=nofollow links are "seen and "counted" as an IBL, but the bots will not process nor proceed beyond any thusly tagged links any further.

Doc
11-07-2009, 11:37 AM
I am hesitant to believe that Google doesn't crawl a page simply because the link to it is a nofollow. I fully accept that they don't pass any juice, but I really doubt that Google takes any direction from ANYONE as to what they should and shouldn't scan. ;)

Clint1
11-07-2009, 01:38 PM
I am hesitant to believe that Google doesn't crawl a page simply because the link to it is a nofollow. I fully accept that they don't pass any juice, but I really doubt that Google takes any direction from ANYONE as to what they should and shouldn't scan. ;)
Yeah, who knows. :confused:

(Oooo, you need to hurry up and post something. Your post count is "evil". ;))

deepsand
11-07-2009, 01:48 PM
There is no tag but there are dofollow links.
To be precise, such are "followed."

As there is no dofollow attribute, and "dofollow" is not a proper word, to use or encourage the use of such is to imply otherwise, thus serving to perpetrate the mistaken belief that such attribute exists.

Clint1
11-08-2009, 02:14 PM
hi, thanks for the link, it helped.. they are nodofollow links... Is it possible to make them dofollow links?

"nodofollow"? I guess you mean nofollow, and no, there's no way of making them "follow" unless you own the website and remove the rel=nofollow attribute from the links.

deepsand
11-08-2009, 02:25 PM
hi, thanks for the link, it helped.. they are nodofollow links... Is it possible to make them dofollow links?
To repeat, there is no such thing as a dofollow attribute; there is only a nofollow one.

The absence of nofollow means that the link is to be followed with respect to the passing of PR.

Doc
11-08-2009, 02:42 PM
"nodofollow" is apparently the name of tha add-on, but I repeat:


This one will do that, and much more: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=searchstatus&cat=all

deepsand
11-08-2009, 03:36 PM
"nodofollow" is apparently the name of tha add-on, but I repeat:
Wonder who came up with that name; a Gen Xer or Yer? ;)

Clint1
11-09-2009, 06:19 AM
"nodofollow" is apparently the name of tha add-on....
Ahh yes. It would seem because of that, he/she was thinking that's what the links were called. Mozilla is contributing to the misnomer: "Just a simple extension to highlight links in a page according to nofollow / dofollow status." One would think they would simply say "nofollow / follow status".

weblover50
11-09-2009, 11:21 AM
"nodofollow"? I guess you mean nofollow, and no, there's no way of making them "follow" unless you own the website and remove the rel=nofollow attribute from the links.

I just started using wordpress blogs, to post articles and link to my site. Let me be more clear, Is it possible to get the 'follow links' with abc.wordpress.com or any other blogs like blogger and wetpaint? If so how to do?

Clint1
11-09-2009, 12:03 PM
I just started using wordpress blogs, to post articles and link to my site. Let me be more clear, Is it possible to get the 'follow links' with abc.wordpress.com or any other blogs like blogger and wetpaint? If so how to do?
I gotcha. And you mean "is it possible to remove the nofollow attribute with wordpress". ;) But I can't answer that because I don't use WP (either of them). But others here do and they'll be able to tell you.

Doc
11-09-2009, 01:09 PM
I just started using wordpress blogs, to post articles and link to my site. Let me be more clear, Is it possible to get the 'follow links' with abc.wordpress.com or any other blogs like blogger and wetpaint? If so how to do?

Weblover-

If you use wordpress on your own site, there are several add-ons available that will allow you to set or unset nofollow as you like. I have a couple of blogs on the worpress site, and although I have seen in their FAQ that it CAN be set as you prefer, it doesn't work for me. I'm relatively new to wordpress, so I'm afraid I can't shed much light on the subject.

If you're using wordpress.com, you can go to wordpress.com Forums (http://en.forums.wordpress.com/) and search for nofollow, and find a number of threads discussing the question.