Vista premium vs Windows 7

[weblover50]

I now have vista premium... I have an idea t upgrade to windows 7. Is there is any major diff btwn them or its just the same?

[wige]

Behind the scenes, there is not a big difference, at least that I have seen. Windows 7 is built on Vista, and is more of a new release (Think more WinXP - WinXP SP2 as opposed to WinXP - Vista). There have been some changes, though. The user interface has been completely overhauled, and is an improvement (at least to me) and while I have not had any major stability issues with Vista on any of my computers, 7 is supposedly more stable than Vista was.

[Doc]

I have heard the same, Wige, in regards to Win 7 being more stable than Vista. I tried Vista, had nightmares, and threw it out after a week, preferring to return to XP. I have only played with Win 7 briefly, on a friend's computer, but the UI was much to be preferred. As to stability, I don't know, but friends that made the switch have spoken highly of it.

[genewell]

Hopefully Win7 isn't just a memory Hog. The jump in requirements from XP to Vista rendered our PC useless! We too went back to XP.

[iguru]

Hi, OSs are something I know much about from 1st hand experience, I am writing this on a Win7 machine, at work I support 100 + XP clients a few MAC clients + linux and win servers (13 in total) not to mention offsite systems.

If you use Vista you SHOULD wipe your machine and install a clean copy of Win7 anyone who does not agree is bonkers!

The main issue with Vista is usability after clicking something you end up wondering how long before the icon stops rotating and actually does something. This is just not an issue in Win 7. I have been running it for months since the first Beta release. I no have the build 7100 version .

The primary factor when selecting an OS is the hardware it is running on. For Win7 (and Vista) I would suggest 2GB Ram minimum and a dual core 2.3Ghz + CPU.

If you have less stick with XP.

Don’t get me wrong Win 7 is not perfect, from a network admins viewpoint, the WIFI and networking GUI are too simplified and the control panel is just over populated. But once things are up and running it is a fantastic OS. It looks great and performs amazingly.

Just to give you an idea of my personal usage - i run Photoshop cs3, Visual Studio for web and desktop development, AVG Anti Virus, Core FTP , Office 2007 and a few other bits and bobs, the machine is still as fast as the day it was first booted.

When this evaluation copy expires I will be purchasing IT and will happily pay for a great piece of development. I was fool enough to purchase vista many moons ago and feel i was nothing less that conned. I installed it and removed it within a month. I gave it a fair shot and now consider it to be nothing more than a Win ME reborn (remember that ?) win 98 SE with a paint job and a few hundred more bugs. ME did introduce us to system restore though (i think). We have banished vista it from our network but do have a few staff with personal laptops runing it and insist on bringing them into I.T for us to fix, we hate those days lol.

PS a mate of mine runs a computer repair shop, I worked for him for a year fixing thousands of computers and laptops. Every customer that had vista hated it, we had many pay £70+ for us re revert their machines back to win XP.

And just for the record, I have also given many linux distros a fair shot and consider them all to be a long way of being ready for the everyday home user. Ubuntu great on a server (we have 2) but essentially a beta on the desktop.

I truly wish a linux distro would be good enough for the real world and would be the first to accept it was but the truth is it's not going to happen.

Why? because of dot NET but that's a whole new story...

Hope my input helps.

[Doc]

If you use Vista you SHOULD wipe your machine and install a clean copy of Win7 anyone who does not agree is bonkers!


I think I LIKE this guy! :lol:

Although I'd be inclined to suggest XP, rather than Win7. ;)

[iguru]

I have no idea what you 2 are on about , sorry.

The only security experts our there are the hackers !
that is why software companies hire them.

To understand hacking and OS security you must become a hacker for a day ;-) We have an isolated test network in our I.T lab for exactly that purpose.

But at the end of the day the week point of any network or desktop pc it the muppets using it.

There are commercial apps out there that require admins right to run, once you give a general user admin rights on the network all the firewalls in the world aint gonna help you (regardless of OS).

All you can do is keep sensitive data on locked down servers and pray ;-).

My point is , for a home / general user unless you have military secrets on your hard drive you are better of worrying about keeping your other half from leaving you than your I.T security.

How many people use WEP WiFi security at home ?
How many people have logon details on a post-it note stuck to their screen?
How many people have VPN access to there work domain ?

The experts do not know the future if they did there would be no Firefox v2,v3,v4 or SP 1,2,3,4

Win 7 is your best bet for security at home as hackers are still targeting XP as it is the most common OS for people that actually have anything worth hacking into.

Trust me , I have not yet seen an office full of vista clients. The real business world runs on XP and server 2003 and will for at least another 1-2 years.


Rant over ;-)

[teeravuss]

We upgraded from vista ultimate to W7 professional... and had a couple bumps in the process. All and all, it was about a 2 hour process.

[stevekolbe]

We have Win 7 in our office. It's been running great.

Oh! Forgot to mention, the upgrade path from Vista to Win 7 is pretty clean. We have done it with little trouble. XP upgrades should be reloaded.

[ArtphotoasiA]

I just spoke with a really expert guy....... quite a pro i have to say it's his job to manage and set hardware and networks for big companies......... by the way he stated that W7 it is a really complete OS instead Wvista was just a joke!!!

same story when Microsoft came up with window millenium before WXP, same policy..... anyone remember the fossil!

with my next PC i will definetely go for W7... there will be problems for sure but is the next serious step....

unless you go for LINUX!

[ian0031]

I have tried the vista premium last month and yet I still go back with windows XP because I still notice the poor stability of Vista premiuim.Few weeks ago I try Windows 7 and it seems good and good in performance especially in its stability. Ican say that it is a combination of XP and Vista wherein the interface is derived from Vista and the performance is derived from XP. I love Windows 7 :)

[hb7of9]

I did not expect much from W7, but was pleasantly proven wrong... upgraded all my machines...

the difference between Vista and Windows 7, is that 7 works!

No crashing, no long long lagging periods! But have to be honest and say that can't wait to see what Google has up it sleeves.

[netman4ttm]

We went to 7 with the following Issues. Printers. Even printers that worked with 2008 rc2 had issues on 7. However, huge improvement over Vista. If the PC can run XP it can run 7.

[ArtphotoasiA]

My main concern is what about all my programs running just fine under winxp?

example what will happen with programs like office for wxp or photoshop for wxp or dreamweaver for wxp?

what will happen with w7 ???

[Doc]

My main concern is what about all my programs running just fine under winxp?

example what will happen with programs like office for wxp or photoshop for wxp or dreamweaver for wxp?

what will happen with w7 ???

Many major software vendors, and Microsoft in particular, are pretty good at ensuring "backward compatibility" with their programs and operating systems. I have yet to see a single version of Windows that didn't work with programs originally designed to work with an earlier Windows version.

[Doc]

Thanks Doc..... I do hope so because soon I will puchase a new desktop PC and for sure they will had w7 to the pack

Well, for what little it's worth, since I haven't tried it myself...

I have a couple of friends that were on the Win7 beta testing, and several that are running it now, and I have yet to hear anything negative.

Of course, after Vista, anything would look good!;)

[crat3rs]

Windows 7 is much more focused with the goal of being more compatible with hardware and it applications. Much more features is included on windows 7 such as direct access, advances in touch and handwriting recognition. I am planning now to upgrade my vista to windows 7.

[innominds]

Windows 7 are more stable, faster and is the best windows version ever made

I don't think Windows 7 is the best OS ever made.
Personally, I do like Win XP SP2 and to me it's the best OS.
Win 7 may have better features than Vista but XP is the best.

[nickoran]

windows 7 has just started pissing me off with all its new little features and silly taskbar! doesnt help im still on vista at work and windows 7 at home, using both drives you nuts!

[netman4ttm]

We avoided VISTA like the plaque. Windows 7 on new dual or quad core machines is a good upgrade and we needed to upgrade. That said every upgraded machine has a MS Virtual XP machine running. We didn't use the Microsoft XP image. We created a Virtual machine and installed a full blown version of XP from the installation CD's that came with the PC's we were putting out to pasture. Print drivers have been a pain, for some of our high end printers.

[Pollux]

f you are running XP on a Core i7, you are wasting your system’s potential. MS made huge improvements to SMP performance going from XP to Vista, then did the same going from Vista to 7. If you have a system with more than 2 threads (yours has 8) then XP won’t make full use of them.
Also I think that win7 is way beter then vista if you are a gamer and actually not every one is rich and can pay for a quad core computer or some other computer.

[Jimania]

Not sure about the true technical side but 7 seems to be more stable. I have Vist 64 Ultimate on my main machine and Windows 7 on my laptop. Both are essentially equal in terms of hardware. Vista closes browsers and generally acts quirky FAR MORE than any issues with 7. . . . although after using both I'm reeeeeallly thinking about getting a Macbook Pro.

[smith.jones159]

Windows 7 is hardly flawless. Some features feel unfinished; others won't realize their potential without heavy lifting by third parties.Windows 7, set to arrive on new PCs and as a shrinkwrapped upgrade on October 22, has a minimalist feel and attempts to fix an**noyances old and new.Windows 7's Taskbar is a feature called Jump Lists. These menus resemble the context-sensitive ones you get when you right-click within various Windows applications, except that you don't have to be inside an app to use them.

[alphaomega]

We went to 7 with the following Issues. Printers. Even printers that worked with 2008 rc2 had issues on 7. However, huge improvement over Vista. If the PC can run XP it can run 7.
Is your OS 64 bit? The 32 bit version have no driver problem to my knowledge. Unless you using legacy printers. All hardware devices are usually picked up by native driver from Win 7.