Personal Site Revealed: www.MrOdd.com

[WebPortal.TV]

Hello... I run a weird little site, and I have not asked for anyone to review it yet, so please feel free to check it out.

http://www.MrOdd.com

^ It is just a site about me, and everything on it, I created. So you can know that annoying background music is one of a kind.


<Mod edit to comply with Site Review Rule #1 (http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=47) - Syren>

[rocky1]

It's definitely different Dude!

Herein you are subject to find those that don't like your colors, don't like your layout, and don't like your background music, but... in that this is a personal site, and thus should reflect your personality, maybe that's all you coming out. Were this a commercial site I'd have a whole stack of suggestions for you, but since it's not, we're not going to go there. I'm cool with what you've got going, because sometimes a guy's just got to be different. Furthermore, I'd expect it, given the URL!

That having been said, the only suggestion I would make is, that you lose the background tunes on the "Voices & Music" page. It gets a bit, audibly confused, with the midis playing over the background tunes.

Nice site! Someday you'll either outgrow this phase, and be an awesome web designer, or make a killing designing Goth sites!

Best of luck either way,
Rocky

[WebPortal.TV]

I'm pretty sure that was more of an insult than a compliment... so I'll try to respond positively in attempts to balance this out.

You suggested it was a phase? No... it's not. I don't try to be different either... there is really no point in doing so, as I figured out a long while back, some people try to be different, yet no one notices it because they are horrible at rummaging up ways to freak everyone out... hints why "goths" exist... some people have little to no better ideas than to dress in all black and listen to terribly over-amped bands.

I did not ask for advice regardless, so I am glad you did not give it... other than the music that is... I merely asked for a review... as in "look at this and tell me what you think".

Anywho, thanks. Ta.

[tikanet]

Greg,
step away from the keyboard.

While you can get away with a lot more disturbing stuff on personal websites, and breaking the rules is just fine, there are still some things that are the kiss of death. (Thought u'd appreciate that allusion.) Microsoft's implementation of the bgsound tag through IE was a mistake when it was first introduced, but thank god many browser creators decided not to support it. Regrettably I accessed your site using a browser that does acknowledge it. Okay, here's the deal. If you're desperate to drive a visitor away within the first couple of seconds, by all means use this method of delivering audio. Otherwise, make it a clickable option.

As you progress through life, I fervently hope that your evident talents will find an outlet that doesn't reflect such desperate narcissism and twisted dementia. I am optimistic. By acknowledging that your current expression of creativity is odd, you have taken that first all important step toward improved mental health.

[WebPortal.TV]

Ha... how does background music make me insane? You don't like it, and most webmasters do not, but a whole other world actually appreciates music. Maybe it is not me who is so ignorant and close minded to what people want?

I am a teen, other teens visit my site. I never once asked "Hey, any old grumpy men want to call young boys crazy?" So please guy, bug off.

[tikanet]

Get a clue, little buddy -- when you post a site for review, you gotta be tough enough to take the hits. Desired effect achieved. You've been showing us just how close to the surface your emotions resided.

[WebPortal.TV]

I have a clue, I have two, one for me, one for you, I turn blue, when you spew, all the negative things you do, and I so I laugh, and I have fun, yet you respond, with a smoking gun.

I have a clue, yes I do, so get it through, and this subject? We'll continue, to, review.

Ha ha... fun... I like writing goofball poetry... just like emotional teenagers do.

Oh, and yes, I wanted to mention, if you want the music to stop, click "Stop" on your browser... I thought you should know that, as most of us already do.

[coughs] Clue clue clue. Ha ha.

Sorry for being a jerk. I really do enjoy conflict, maybe that is one of my problems... regardless, anything nice to say about the site? I don't recall anything you have said up to this point being positive.

[rocky1]

WebPortal.TV ~


I'm pretty sure that was more of an insult than a compliment... so I'll try to respond positively in attempts to balance this out.

No that was not meant as an insult, it was meant as a compliment! Lose the attitude if you ask for reviews, it was and is quite simply, "constructive criticsm."


You suggested it was a phase? No... it's not.

Was suggested that it was a design phase you are going through, not a personal thing. Been there, done that, on both ends. But... I expressed personality initially in design, then decided to turn my site into something more than a personal site, and changed the entire "I wanna be FUN" atmosphere to something more elegant and respectful to meet that goal. As a designer you will likely see those changes too, as a need arises or necessity dictates, to please prospective clients. Speaking from experience, you will likewise grow tired of looking at what you have, over time, and experiment with other styles. The process is called growth!

[WebPortal.TV]

Actually that is not really my style of design... I was intentionally trying to make the site look weird... that's the theme right?

The design I love to make is always black and gray... for instance http://www.deathreaper.com

Thanks for being positive though, I guess I took your comments wrongly.

You are right though, our design skills all evolve into more impressive and meaningful productions. I will most likely advance...

[Steven Glover]

Yay I have a Growth! Yay!

Yay! Have you seen my growth? Yay!

Hey Lady, Yay!

Ok so now that some of the childishness has dispensed perhaps I can give my 2 cents.

I have never heard Rocky be negative so I doubt that was his intention.

Now on to reviewing your site. I did not look at your site. Have no intention of reviewing it. When you ask for a review you are aking for people to critique your site and give you advice that you can choose to take or not. However if you cant take the constructive critiqu then you should not ask for one.

I was going to look at your site but after you have been so rude to the first two people who looked at it I have chosen not to. My time is invaluable to me and I certainly am not going to spend 20 minutes looking at a site just so I can have rude comments thrown in my face. I don't think anyone else should have to either.

[WebPortal.TV]

That is totally logical of you... but why 20 minutes? It takes only a few seconds to see the design, and I really don't wish to hear literary advice (on all the writings etc in the site).

The name "Steven Glover" is really familiar... weird. Have you ever been told that before?

[shrugs] Anywho, if no one wants to review the site from this point on, that is completely fine, no big deal.

I do appreciate Rocky's reasoning overall. Thanks.

[rocky1]

The design I love to make is always black and gray... for instance http://www.deathreaper.com

Death Reaper is very nicely done in Black and Gray! Were I to critique that one, (even though you didn't ask), I would suggest only that you develop a more refined and menacing skull to place in the header, that one's a little weak given the sophistication seen in the rest of the site! The rest of the site is so refined, that the skull detracts from what you've got going elsewhere on the page. The smaller graphics of that nature on the pages don't grab you like the one in the header and you can probably get away with them, but... the one in the header commands too much attention, and needs to be way nastier!

Again, there is a great deal of talent expressed in your work, and in time you will see need, and will expand your horizons. If you typically do Black and Gray, "Mr. Odd" is probably the result of all that pent up color trying to get out of you! You're growing as a designer, like it or not dude. Your heart will tell you where you want to go, and how fast you want to grow. In the meantime take the comments and suggestions here with a grain of salt, they are meant only to help, through understanding of where we've been in design, and where you're now at. No one's putting you down personally or professionally, we're just offering our acquired wisdom and knowledge of the industry to help you along the path. That's what this place is all about.

Take care,
Rocky

[AlanMCSD]

:)

[matauri]

I decided to give you the benefit of doubt, and visit your site. And I am glad I did.

It is simply what it is...a funky site. My daughter has one too. Your colours are refreshingly youthful & vibrant. Its not a business site, so you have gone the whole nine yards...why not I say :-)

I do agree about the music tho. But its a personal site, so your call.

BUT....when met with negative criticism, you flew off your rocker. Not a good sign. You will always get people who will criticize things you do thru life. It's how you deal with it afterwards that defines character.

So....cool funky site.... but calm down on the attitude :-)

[WebPortal.TV]

Alright... Rocky seems to be a very wise webmaster... super cool that this board has a philosopher. I respect the comments given intended for a positive result... for instance, some of you provided advice that would improve my own skill... rather than telling me what was wrong, you mentioned what I did right, and what I could improve on, with that, I say again, I appreciate that.

Keep in mind however, it is not I alone who disgruntled the situation. You must understand my perspective, and your own as well. There are duties to inputing opinions, yet one must also consider that the person you speak to is in fact, a person.

I would not normally take insult if this were another site... for instance DeathReaper.com - Yet MrOdd.com is my personal site, and when you bash the site, it is like you are attacking me personally.

Understand?

I think we all learned something by this. Thanks.

[Steven Glover]

Hmmmm I have been told that before. I am located in Altamonte Springs/Orlando Florida area.

[rdrunna]

Hi All:

WebPortal: I have visited your site. I agree with the talent in the color scheme, and I do like your tunes, but at times, I must click stop to stop it because it's something that anyone would want to do, if even listening to a radio or CD. Some are not wise to the stop command, so when it was suggested to place an on/off of music, I believe it was for those who don't know the stop command. Most of the comments here I see as constructive critism. As for personal, I can related, because it is about you, but when exposing yourself to others, you will get good and bad, but most is how you receive it. Maybe reading back on another day, you will have a different outlook. I believe you have a lot of talent and when placed in situations that life experience will bring, you again will get good and bad, but actually I believe it to be neither good or bad, but just that it is...

So please if you would, continue expressing your talents. Your format is nice, but one little thing, I would try to keep the fonts consistant, when you can. I like the fonts on the message board. Maybe it's because they seem larger, but may be the same font. Either way, it was easier to read for me.

I wish you well and hang in there. Try not to be defensive. We are all in this together. Some may not know how to express it through text, because text doesn't always give expression, or tone of voice. Make it a great day

Fellow WebProWorld Friend

[tikanet]

rdrunna and Greg, I gotta remind you that IE is not the only browser out there. While hitting the stop button works with IE, it doesn't with other browsers. Mozilla, and Netscrape mercifully don't even recognize the bgsound tag, but of those other browsers that do, I know of none that allow you to stop the audio with the stop download button.

[blackcastle]

Ok here we go... first of all don't worry about tika. I have never read a review that he was nice in. The man loves to hear himself type I guess. And after reviewing his sites you can tell he is the founder and sole member of the boredom foundation. Anyway, I like the site and you have your own style. I found the page that talk about mr. odd interesting. I promise you one thing.. I never found any interest at all in reading anything on tika's page. Maybe it's the rivers of brown..Anyway, keep it up man. I don't think your going through a phase or your still young. Who cares anyway. Put what you like. rock on..

[rdrunna]

Okay Blackcastle:

Your comments about tikanet were unnecessary. We should not bash. You know the saying or not, since I don't know what you know, but I think that tika's comment about browsers is fine. However you bashing his site about being boring is an "Insult to Injury". And by insulting, two wrongs don't make it right, so everyone, please no need to throw darts because you don't like what someone says... I came to this formun to learn, not to have each of us call each other names or insult one another. So best of luck to all. And this is my way of saying move forward.

Take it easy or not!!! your choice.

[blackcastle]

ok mamm,
I see that you don't know the tik-ster. I ask you to try to find one review that he is not ginding the person's site into the ground. Your just being nice becuase it has not happened to you. I'm all for constructive critism but, for some reason he does not come off that way in his reviews. He ridicules the web designer for ever getting into the business using complex programming terms that most small time web designers whould not know. Most of the time the reviews come off as a "I know more then you..nananana" statement then anything the designer could ever use. I'm sure the man has an extensive knowledge of programming languages and tools..but it's the artistic abilty he lacks. So when reading his reviews you notice it's the designers who are trying to be creative or try something new and interesting that he lashes out at. I mean come on do you actually think this is necessary in his statement:

"As you progress through life, I fervently hope that your evident talents will find an outlet that doesn't reflect such desperate narcissism and twisted dementia. I am optimistic. By acknowledging that your current expression of creativity is odd, you have taken that first all important step toward improved mental health."

What does that have to do with browsers?? People come here to learn lady..not to be put in there place! There is a difference. have a nice day.
P.S. "this is my way of saying move forward"

[WebPortal.TV]

Mozilla, and Netscrape mercifully don't even recognize the bgsound tag, but of those other browsers that do, I know of none that allow you to stop the audio with the stop download button.

I hate to "kick a dead horse" but you just insinuated that the music I developed was horrible... let me remind you of your age... ok... so all I know is that your are really really really old, yet I do realize that your age far exceeds mine, and with your constant support for the "all-about-me" way of life, it's kinda insulting to read your posts.

You said "mercifully" relating to "give me mercy" or "please make it stop".

You not liking music is a personal problem, not ours. The song may seem repetitive at first, but it gets better... well... that or your sound card was made in 1986.

Thanks for telling what's his face your opinion blackcastle, some people are just out to destroy, never to build on anything but thier own egos.

As for RDRunner... I appreciate your feedback. It was VERY constructive.