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cw1865
05-07-2009, 02:12 PM
Oh, Manny, say it ain't so! Manny Ramirez gets suspended for 50 games for roids.

Do we have ANY heroes left?

Gives me a better appreciation for the likes of Fred McGriff, Will Clark, Griffey, Jr., et al. who at least appear (by build) to be non-juiced.

As far as I'm concerned: Hank Aaron remains the all-time home run leader.

crankydave
05-07-2009, 04:44 PM
Being a Cub fan, mine are Ron Santo and Ryne Sandberg. Hard pressed to find any players that play the game today the way they did.

Still hard for me to believe Ronny is not in the Hall yet. And Ryno went out and played the game the way it was supposed to be played... hard... everyday.

Agree with you about Hank... 100%

Dave

SteveGerencser
05-07-2009, 08:37 PM
I want my sports athletes juiced, roided, genetically altered, freaks of nature..

cw1865
05-08-2009, 12:40 PM
The problem is that really who is absolutely BEYOND suspicion at this point?

Dubbya
05-08-2009, 01:10 PM
I am beyond suspicion, at least as far as professional athletics is concerned.

My motto is "nobody moves, nobody gets hurt".

bama1965
05-08-2009, 02:08 PM
Here's the little fella in 1992:

http://rookiestars.com/manny

cw1865
05-09-2009, 01:01 PM
Just curious, what has happened to the value of his rookie cards since the news broke?

bama1965
05-11-2009, 03:22 AM
No reflection in prices as of now. Usually takes a few months to show up.

Manny 1992 Bowman #532 lists for $30.

Peace,
Ken

cw1865
05-11-2009, 05:49 PM
sell.....sell....sell....

crankydave
05-11-2009, 06:07 PM
sell.....sell....sell....

ROFL!!!

That's what my wife says when she walks into my office at home. There was a period of time when I collected a lot of numbered and autographed stuff cuz well, cuz I liked it.

The Danny Day artwork is some of my favorites. Nolan Ryan hard canvas transfer. A MJ litho that's an AP 19/23

Dave

cw1865
05-11-2009, 06:31 PM
As a kid I was an avid baseball card collector and still collect them (but never open the seal!), I still get sets of cards for my birthday in July. Nevertheless, I bought a book with the addresses of the players (most likely their agents) and wrote away to quite a few of them. I received a few responses. The best response was from Mike Schmidt who signed one of my baseball cards (I sent valueless cards since an autograph technically destroys the value of the card) and sent a letter which was also signed. Nolan Ryan sent an autographed picture. George Brett sent no autograph but at least sent a photo. Don Mattingly sent a photo with a 'stamp' signature.

At the game I got one from Daryl Strawberry. My father took me and my brother out to the game for my birthday and we were in right field while Strawberry was doing practice. Strawberry was signing and I had some cards for him. He began to walk away and I yelled out 'Daryl, its the kid's birthday!' - which it wasn't, it was my birthday, but my brother is ten years younger. The Straw Man came back and signed what he thought was my little brother's card (which I let him keep). This was Strawberry's first game back at Shea after signing with the Dodgers and he was NOT popular. In his first at bat, all 45,000 + people were booing him (except the remnant Dodger fans-to this day the Mets draw Dodger fans). Strike 1, big,big cheer, Strike 2 even a bigger cheer....fans are on their feet for a strikeout (2 outs looking for K to end inning)....and Strawberry crushed it to the upper deck in right.

45,000 + silenced.

And that is how I remember it. I found the article anticipating Strawberry's return AND the boxscore from that game. Turns out Strawberry's homerun was off of Viola, but it was in the 6th inning and it wasn't to deep right but to 'deep LF-CF' - Franco got Strawberry to ground out to end the game (I completely forgot that!)

BASEBALL; Cheers and Jeers Await Strawberry's First Return to Shea - The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/07/sports/baseball-cheers-and-jeers-await-strawberry-s-first-return-to-shea.html)
(article before the game)

May 7, 1991 Los Angeles Dodgers at New York Mets Box Score and Play by Play - Baseball-Reference.com (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN199105070.shtml)
(boxscore)

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/08/sports/baseball-strawberry-s-favorite-path-all-4-bases-at-shea.html
(Article from day after game)

In any event, the kid got the card, since he was 9 and I was 19. He didn't protect it though - it wound up getting nibbled on by the dog.....ugh!