View Full Version : Dropped From Uk Search Since Hosting Moved
I moved my site to the missus hosting , which happens to be USA located servers.
Now when I do a search and put 'UK Only'; my pages are excluded.
I live in the UK , though it's not a UK aimed website and my TLD is .org
I enjoyed better 'UK Only' rankings vs 'All Web'.
How do I get the SE's to see me as UK based again while keeping USA hosting and a TLD of .org?
GWMT geo-location has been set and seems to work, but what about all the other SE's?
SteveGerencser
04-30-2009, 09:05 AM
Google webmaster tools.. Set your region there.. It takes time..
Also add some uk specific addressing on the pages..
Google webmaster tools.. Set your region there.. It takes time..
incase you missed it
GWMT geo-location has been set and seems to work, but what about all the other SE's?
Also add some uk specific addressing on the pages
What do you mean by this? Put my UK home address on the web pages?
No chance!
SteveGerencser
04-30-2009, 02:01 PM
in case you missed it
It takes time..
Put my UK home address on the web pages?
And no, but it doesn't hurt to tell everyone that you are in the UK and mention towns, cities, the UK, itself on your website to help Google figure it out..
It takes time...
incase you missed it...
GWMT geo-location has been set and seems to work, but what about all the other SE's?
Or are you saying GWMT affects the other SE's?
And no, but it doesn't hurt to tell everyone that you are in the UK and mention towns, cities, the UK, itself on your website to help Google figure it out..
So your suggesting I spam my pages with names of towns that have nothing to do with the website or its content and has no value to my visitor?
Irelivent content on a page which is purely there for SE's and not for visitors IMO is also spammy or at least 'black hat', if you're not doing it for your visitor then it's wrong , or that's what i was taught, is this not the case?
SteveGerencser
05-01-2009, 09:09 AM
Good luck..
with what?
You didn't answer the questions?
crankydave
05-01-2009, 09:54 AM
with what?
You didn't answer the questions?
ummmmm... Yes he did. He pointed out some things to help you let the search engines know that your site is relevant for the UK. That is provided your site is supposed to be relevant for the UK. Your site is either specifically relevant to the UK or it's not. Simply "living there" doesn't make it relevant.
You dismissed those suggestions hence... good luck.
Dave
You dismissed those suggestions hence
No I didin't, how many times do I have to say "I've already done that!"
GWMT geo-location has been set and seems to work, but what about all the other SE's?
And the question regarding putting irrelivent content on the page for the sake of the SE's was not answered.
Any people who can actually read, fancy giving me a heads up?
I take you're point being in the UK doesn't mean you automatically target the UK, but it does mean if people put 'UK Only' they only want people who are in the UK or service the UK.
crankydave
05-01-2009, 10:00 AM
And the question regarding putting irrelivent content on the page for the sake of the SE's was not answered.
If putting UK relevant information on your site is irrelevant then you do not deserve to rank in the UK.
Good luck.
Dave
If putting UK relevant information on your site is irrelevant then you do not deserve to rank in the UK. what are you on about?
Please explain to me what relevance putting UK towns & county names on my site has to do with the site and it's content and how not having this makes it a non-UK website?
SteveGerencser
05-01-2009, 10:25 AM
Copyright 2009 - MyScrewedUpCompany - A United Kingdom based company -
What you have done is buy a name that is global (.org), have a product that is global with NO UK specific relationship, then built your store in the US, and wonder why you don't rank in the UK?? Have I got this right??
I think your name fits..
crankydave
05-01-2009, 10:43 AM
what are you on about?
Please explain to me what relevance putting UK towns & county names on my site has to do with the site and it's content and how not having this makes it a non-UK website?
It's not a site aimed at the UK, it's hosted in the US, putting UK specific information on the site is irrelevant, and you want to rank better for UK only searches.
Are you for real?
Dave
I'm in the UK, what i do is in the UK, people who want to contact a UK artist, want to find me in the UK listing.
What has my TLD and hosting location got to do with it , and why does the content have to be UK specific?
Music has no nationality, The Artist does!
Are you for real?
What bit of all this are you finding so hard to grasp?
crankydave
05-01-2009, 11:10 AM
I'm in the UK, what i do is in the UK, people who want to contact a UK artist, want to find me in the UK listing.
And how exactly is anyone, including SE's, supposed to know that if don't put it on your site? Hire a psychic?
Do you even bother to think about or read what you're posting?
Dave
SteveGerencser
05-01-2009, 11:14 AM
Ok, one more time in little bitty words..
You have a global product: Music. No regional information for the search engines to use to determine where your site is most relevant..
You bought a globa domain: .Org. No regional information for the search engines to use to determine where your site is most relevant..
You hosted your site in the US. Regional information for the search engines to use to determine where your site is most relevant..
You refuse to include UK specific content because music has "no nationality" and you think it would be spam..
So, of the 4 things search engines use to determine your region, only one has any useful information, and it says you are in the US..
To quote you :
What bit of all this are you finding so hard to grasp?
I believe that you chose a very appropriate name..
I don't need to tell my visitors, but I do the SE's that's the point of the question wasn't it?
I've mentioned i'm uk on the site, but i'm not putting towns, cities or my address!
But now you're telling me because there is a DJ picture of me on the site and i've put 'Santarini Greece 2000' as the heading, because that's where/when the photo was taken, i'm now going to show up in the greek SE's.
If that's the case you're as barmy as the SE's are!
SteveGerencser
05-01-2009, 11:21 AM
And this is why I don't work with musicians any more..
crankydave
05-01-2009, 11:38 AM
Craig... Your site is not a UK site. There's no reason it should rank in UK results specifically, based upon the domain, the hosting, and the site content.
One post you say "contact a UK artist" and another you say "I don't need to tell my visitors".
The only thing you did do is answer my question as to whether or not you actually think about or read what you post.
Suggestions have been given as to how you can rank better in google.uk. You don't like any of them. That's your choice.
For the last time Craig, and specifically, here's what you can do that will help...
1. UK hosting
2. A co.uk domain
3. UK specific content
4. Links from the UK and UK based sites.
5. Use a UK registrar
Don't like any of these? Too bad.
Good luck.
Dave
Craig... Your site is not a UK site. There's no reason it should rank in UK results specifically, based upon the domain, the hosting, and the site content.
One post you say "contact a UK artist" and another you say "I don't need to tell my visitors".
The only thing you did do is answer my question as to whether or not you actually think about or read what you post.
Suggestions have been given as to how you can rank better in google.uk. You don't like any of them. That's your choice.
Look I'm a UK artist, living in the UK and have a site, I don't care who visits the site, my music has no nationality.
But, I am UK based and thus so is my website, it's about me and nothing but me, and I'm English!
Now i'm prepared to do things to get in the UK only search, but not if it means putting rubbish content on my page just for the SE's.
to answer your specific list...
1. No , it's USA hosting and the company hosting my site is irrelivant. I might drive an Italian car but I need the steering wheel on the right! origin of hosting is a rediculous method of judging country location.
2. I have one, which i'm gonna try and do some sort of parking with to get me included in the UK only, but my site is .org Dance Music Organisation and I am not changing this for love nor money! nor should I have to, again if they base TLD for country location their method is seriously flawed.
3. Music has no nationality, i think i've laready flogged this one to death.
4. I have these, no problemo! , but this implies if I get more links from german sites i'm gonna show up in the german SE, when people say they only want german based websites/companies, again a stupildy flawed method if used.
5. I do, it is, but how does my registrar matter, i'll buy my domain from who ever I please, again I drive an itallian car but I didn't buy it in Italy!
If the main answer is you can't get in unless you host UK or have .co.uk TLD, well so be it, it's stupid, but if that's the way it is, fine.
I'll wait until the SE's and the bods who run them work out a better way, rather than using rubbish data to decide! Like the TLD extention or location of server!
crankydave
05-01-2009, 12:48 PM
1. No , it's USA hosting and the company hosting my site is irrelivant. I might drive an Italian car but I need the steering wheel on the right! origin of hosting is a rediculous method of judging country location.
No it's not. It's very relevant. You don't have to like it or agree with it. Let's see... you had UK hosting and you ranked. Now you have US hosting and you don't. Yep, no relevance there. :rolleyes:
2. I have one, which i'm gonna try and do some sort of parking with to get me included in the UK only, but my site is .org Dance Music Organisation and I am not changing this for love nor money! nor should I have to, again if they base TLD for country location their method is seriously flawed.
Oh well. Your choice.
3. Music has no nationality, i think i've laready flogged this one to death.
No kidding. But you want Google to give it nationality. Makes sense to me. :rolleyes:
4. I have these, no problemo! , but this implies if I get more links from german sites i'm gonna show up in the german SE, when people say they only want german based websites/companies, again a stupildy flawed method if used.
lol... 44 external links with 35 of them coming from highrankings is your idea of "I have these, no problemo!"?
5. I do, it is, but how does my registrar matter, i'll buy my domain from who ever I please, again I drive an itallian car but I didn't buy it in Italy!
lol... Your registrar is Tucows. Last I checked... Canada.
I'll wait until the SE's and the bods who run them work out a better way, rather than using rubbish data to decide! Like the TLD extention or location of server!
Want to ignore the suggestions? Want to simply wait? Your choice. All it will mean is that when it comes to ranking for UK pages it sucks to be you.
Dave
No it's not. It's very relevant. You don't have to like it or agree with it. Let's see... you had UK hosting and you ranked. Now you have US hosting and you don't. Yep, no relevance there I'm not saying it isn't affecting it, i'm saying it's BS.
lol... 44 external links with 35 of them coming from highrankings is your idea of "I have these, no problemo!"? what domain are you looking at? I hope you're not going to try and tell me that any link checker you used is accurate!
seings as I webmaster some UK websites where I have links and they show in GWMT, you are definately geting duff data from somewhere.
Your registrar is Tucows. Last I checked... Canada. ? really, I thought it was 123-reg.co.uk , are they not UK? I'm confused where i've been logging into for the last umpteen years then.
Infact i'm rather confused over this particular issue and would appreciate it if you could clarify some things for me...
my IPS TAG is 123-REG , and I register my domains with 123-reg.co.uk. so , they intern are owned by GX Networks Limited a UK company in Putney London.
Nominet also shows that 123-REG is a registered registrar and is a UK limited company.
So why are you saying it's with a canadian company?
I see my WhoIS is showing Tucows , but who are they, i've never dealt with them to my knowledge, something is a miss that i'm not aware of obviously.
All it will mean is that when it comes to ranking for UK pages it sucks to be you.
No I think you'll find when it comes to working out a company/websites GEO-Location the SE's suck!
at the end of the day there are some things i'm not going to do like move domain name or hosting or put unwanted content on my page,.
But if there is a way, which for G! there is via GWMT and it works, aparently because .org is gTLD. i'll do it for the other SE's.
If it means under the current situation I can't get myself noticed as UK, well so be it, it's no biggie, I don't HAVE to be UK, I WANT to be UK, because I AM UK.
And I know I can't always have what I want!
Ces La Vie!
williamc
05-08-2009, 12:17 PM
Ok, I know this thread is 7 days old, but I just saw it and I thought I had seen it all until just this second.....
This guy just boggles the mind.....
Yeah I know, but what can you do?