Paypal vs StormPay

[alsoran]

I'm a Paypal member for more than 2 years, but have been unable to use it since Paypal doesn't send money to any non-US (and some more countries) bank account. Since I'm located in India, I therefore do not qualify for Paypal's discretion.

A few days back I noticed StormPay (https://www.stormpay.com/index.php), which is almost similar to Paypal (including Paypal's new facilities for its users). Among some distinct advantages that it has over Paypal, StormPay sends sellers' money by different modes, and it also accepts buyers' money in different ways.

I look forward to more feedback from my fellow WPW users about StormPay. Also, does StormPay facilitate selling through ebay..?

Thanks in advance.

[lionheart]

I know this topic is paypal vs stormpay but you should consider other options as well. www.iKobo.com is one of them and although they are a new company their coverage is much better than paypal's, about 170 countries. They send you an I-Kard, which is in fact a Visa Plus card, after someone sends you money and they don't charge any setup, monthly or inter-country fees as well. Stormpay's coverage is smaller the that of iKobo and also their rates are higher. That's how I see it, decide for yourselves.

[alsoran]

I know this topic is paypal vs stormpay but you should consider other options as well. www.iKobo.com is one of them and although they are a new company their coverage is much better than paypal's, about 170 countries.....

A response at long last... Thanks lionheart. You do have lion's heart (ignore the pun please).

Well, I do know about ikobo. And I have also seen people telling horror stories about it in different forum discussions. God knows what's true. The funny part is ikobo itself never tries to clear the air.

Do you have any other suggestions (other than 2CO)?

[Elite Skills]

Paypal is not a bank. It's just an evil company. There are hundreds of sites just like it, you just have to look for them. www.paypalsucks.com - they even have a hate site. Be sure to read the reviews and search google before signing up to any page you will entrust money in.

[voodooboy]

The best thing I could suggest is to check with the Better Business Bureau. Also look at the age of the company. PayPal has been in business for several more years than most. They have that going for them. I understand you are looking for something that will work within your country. If stormpay covers your country, then check with your countries (or the U.S.) BBB and get the real info on them. Everyone will have their own opinions (like the one above.)

Every company will have bad press. Someone gets their feelings hurt (usually their own fault) and they need someone to blame. And most go for the big company instead of themselves. I have had nothing but positive results with PayPal.

Let's remember this is a thread about comparison, not mud slinging. So let's keep the [evil] comments to ourselves, and cover the issue at hand.

Best of luck.

[oldmaid]

Hello all,
While on the subject does anyone know of one that is set up to except donations?
I have contacted pay pal and they do not.
Thanks
Oldmaid

[TrafficProducer]

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[Weedy Lady]

Is your organization a 501c3? If so, people can donate through network for good on line. You have to sign up with them as an official contact person and submit lots of information. They used to be a free service but now charge a small percentage of each donation. You might look into it, though. You'll find them at
http://www.networkforgood.org/npo/fundraising/

If you just want people to contribute to you to help pay the cost of your web site, it seems that you can do that through pay pay OK.....at least a lot of other people do.

[steveteva]

Since paypal is great for Ebayers, Stormpay and clikbank is great too.
I personaly use Clickbank (Worlwide customers and sign in are accepted) as they also provides an affiliate program.
The problem with paypal is with website customers, because people don't want to fill a form asking password (for ebay new account)... they prefered to pay by entering just their name on card, number and exp. date.(just like an ecommerce site will do) I ve choosen ClickBank. It is crucial, any customer lost is money lost too !

[jamescorp]

While we're on the subject, does anyone know a payment processor that lets you charge your customers in local currency (eg.Australian dollars)?
I have been using paypal and just haven't got around to checking others out. So anyone that could help would be much appreciated.
Also the only problem with Clickbank is the fact that you can only sell a product up to $100 USD. Any other solutions for affiliates?
Thanks
James
http://www.internet-website-marketing-tips.com

[alsoran]

Seems there isn't much of convergence of ideas. Okay, let me put down what people here are saying:

1
PayPal : Good to many, bad to some. By far, most popular. Unfortunately, I cannot draw money to my Indian bank.

2
StormPay : Not much popular. No constructive comments so far.

3
iKobo : New, but proving popular. Yet, people are not sure how it'll shape up. Needs more probing.

4
ClickBank : Good and trustworthy. First downside -- only allows digital items. Second downside -- doesn't allow many countries including India. This would have been my first choice for selling my ebook, but for this reason.

I'd much welcome more comments....

[acornwebworks]

Hello all,
While on the subject does anyone know of one that is set up to except donations?
I have contacted pay pal and they do not.
Thanks
Oldmaid

Hi!

The non-profit I work with has been using 2Checkout, which accepts donations, but I am going to be investigating http://www.networkforgood.org/npo/fundraising/ for them (as mentioned by Weedy Lady) as it charges a lower percentage and the non-profit is already listed in GuideStar.

Thanks for this topic!

[alsoran]

Is your organization a 501c3? .........

If you just want people to contribute to you to help pay the cost of your web site, it seems that you can do that through pay pay OK......

Interesting..! But, dear Weedy Lady, can you elaborate what 501c3 is? And, also some more info' on Pay Pay OK.

[drjean]

www.ibill.com takes donations, and you don't have to be a non-profit.

I researched merchant accounts, 3rd party payment processors, and shopping carts about 6 months ago and just about went completely crazy! To save my sanity we ended up going just with PayPal and have never had a problem with them, but feel we are losing a lot of sales because of PayPal's bad rep. We are now looking to take credit cards via a merchant account or some other solution, but are having a hard time finding a solution.

To our friend in India, have you looked at other local sites to see what they're doing? I'll bet that if you ask around to other merchants, they'll be happy to tell you their experiences--especially if they're bad experiences, people love to complain! :)

Cheers,
Jean

[taberniki]

Hello all,
While on the subject does anyone know of one that is set up to except donations?
I have contacted pay pal and they do not.
Thanks
Oldmaid

Hello Old Maid,

Actually, they do! PayPal offers a donate button option that is very easy to integrate into your existing Web page.

I use both PayPal as well as MyPaySystems. PayPal has the advantage of costing less to use, versus the speed and immediate gratification of the latter, prior-existing membership or not.

I definately suggest that you have a second look at PayPal's offer.

[Weedy Lady]

Hi ezpost.....you wrote:
Interesting..! But, dear Weedy Lady, can you elaborate what 501c3 is? And, also some more info' on Pay Pay OK.

A 501c3 is a non profit corporation, registered with the US government, which does little or no lobbying. Contributions to these corporations are tax deductible.

A 501c4 is a non profit corporation registered with the US government that is allowed to do more lobbying but contributions to these non profit corporations are not tax deductible.

My apologies for the "pay pay"..........it was a typo that I did not catch when I previewed my message. I meant to type pay pal. Goes to prove once again that one cannot proof one's own work, eh?

[oldmaid]

Hello,
I have some avenues now to look at thank you all for the information. I did write pay pal. Their response was that at the moment they were not set up for donations.
Have a good day
oldmaid

[acornwebworks]

OK. I'll bite. Does PayPal have a donations option or not?

I entered "Donations" as a search question on the PayPal website and got taken to a page that says "PayPal offers the most convenient and cost-effective solution for collecting donations online...Donations Buttons: Accept donations instantly from your website with these buttons. They're easy to place on your site (no programming required)"

But then someone here says "I did write pay pal. Their response was that at the moment they were not set up for donations."

I looked under Pay Pal Merchant Tools and I do not see a Donations Buttons option. So...does anyone actually have a PayPal Donations Button on their website??? Or is this simply something in their future.

[Weedy Lady]

Here is the url of a person I know who has a site and takes donations through pay pal:
http://mamarocks.com/support.htm

You have to scroll a ways down the page, but the "donate" button is on there.

Hope this resolves your issue with PayPal.

[acornwebworks]

Here is the url of a person I know who has a site and takes donations through pay pal:
http://mamarocks.com/support.htm

You have to scroll a ways down the page, but the "donate" button is on there.

Hope this resolves your issue with PayPal.

Thanks! I wonder why anyone is receiving info from PayPal saying that they aren't set up for donations. Oh well.

[oldmaid]

that was my problem, i had seen where i thought they offered it but when I wrote them (because I couldn't figure it out) they siad they didn't offer it yet. Humm If someone is using it they must have it. That is just crazy. Well if it was a new person who knows. I looked for the email and couldn't find it.
Thanks all
Old maid

[voodooboy]

The question to ask is, does PayPal charge for the donation function? You can create a donation button in any graphic app. and link it to any PayPal account. It does not mean that PayPal will not charge for the service. Maybe what they are saying in "not being set-up to receive donations" means that their system does not exempt you from their fees if you are a non profit organization. Other companies that deal with donations, either do it for free (if your a non profit) or do it for a much lower rate.

Just a thought.

[acornwebworks]

The question to ask is, does PayPal charge for the donation function? You can create a donation button in any graphic app. and link it to any PayPal account. It does not mean that PayPal will not charge for the service. Maybe what they are saying in "not being set-up to receive donations" means that their system does not exempt you from their fees if you are a non profit organization. Other companies that deal with donations, either do it for free (if your a non profit) or do it for a much lower rate.

Just a thought.

Actually that wouldn't be my question. PayPal has always allowed set prices, but I would want a donation button that allows a person to fill in whatever amount they want.

And...guess what...it works now!!! You can actually create a PayPal donation button now. Just goes to show the power of a few phone calls and a great forum :-)

[oldmaid]

Cool beans!

[Blackicicle]

I always thought that paypal accepted donations, I've seen many site with the "Paypal Donate" and I even remember reading somthing on this from the members area... I guess I have some homework to do.