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Andrew Ballenthin
12-15-2008, 01:57 PM
I recently changed the page title and description for a client to help boost their ranking. However when doing a Google search the newly posted information does not display. How can I fix this? I have resubmitted the site on Google's Webmaster Tools as the first step.

I did have success with their prime keywords on the home page. Within 30 mintues of adding the keywords the site went from 16 (showing on the 2nd page) to 6 on the first page.

Webnauts
12-15-2008, 08:47 PM
I recently changed the page title and description for a client to help boost their ranking. However when doing a Google search the newly posted information does not display. How can I fix this? I have resubmitted the site on Google's Webmaster Tools as the first step.

I did have success with their prime keywords on the home page. Within 30 mintues of adding the keywords the site went from 16 (showing on the 2nd page) to 6 on the first page.
On which page is it showing up now?

seomagician
12-15-2008, 10:15 PM
It takes time for the new title and description to take hold. Since the page is already being crawled, you just have to wait.

Jean-Luc
12-15-2008, 11:20 PM
If the site is in DMOZ, use
<META NAME=”robots” CONTENT=”noodp”>
Jean-Luc

subhzash
12-16-2008, 12:16 AM
After updating new title and description you need to wait for more than 30 to 45 days with that search engines crawl and stores.



Regards
Subhash

webullswobble
12-18-2008, 09:25 AM
I did have success with their prime keywords on the home page. Within 30 mintues of adding the keywords the site went from 16 (showing on the 2nd page) to 6 on the first page.

If you remove the Title and Description THEN write a blog post about the page Google goes crazy. It visits expecting to see the original page only to find an empty Title or Meta Description. It will then consider the meta keywords to be highly relevant and will go on to crawl the page - reassessing the content. That's probably how you moved positions so quickly.

The real test of nerve comes to then including a Title and description that has nothing to do with the pages content.

This really intrigues the Google spider and if you check your server logs you'll see a googlebot visit almost hourly. During this Googlebot Fest you can monkey around with the keywords and achieve dramatic results for almost anything.

jordy3738
12-18-2008, 02:53 PM
I've had the same issue during times when I made changes. It just took them a while to change my entries. It's funny because I would check out the Google webmasters account and wee that they crawled my site but then the description and title would still be the same. Finally there was a change after a while.

shakir
12-21-2008, 03:37 AM
me tooks around one month to display new description display with SERP even crawl my site weekly too. So google i staking some time to update the content at least 1 month

sofomor
12-24-2008, 08:09 AM
Anchor texts !

Your webmaster approach is best. The rest leave it on time. Keep link building for the terms in your title/targeted keywords. The DMOZ answer above is also important.

Also simply modifying titles and descriptions are not the key to success! Keep link building for the terms and you shall get your desired results.

Thank you,

jawn_tech
12-24-2008, 05:42 PM
If you remove the Title and Description THEN write a blog post about the page Google goes crazy.

Interesting. What if the page in question is a blog post, or is on a site using a blogging platform. Or do you mean a blog post on a separate site.


:cool:

innominds
12-26-2008, 12:15 PM
Google will recognize the new title and description after a few crawls. It may take just 2 days or 20 days. In the mean time get some good quality backlinks for your site.

deepsand
12-29-2008, 02:49 PM
get more backlinks to your site. and your title will chang soon or later within 2 weeks. beleive me. my friend.
What do IBLs have to do with the Title? :confused:

Webnauts
12-29-2008, 03:37 PM
get more backlinks to your site.
Get more links? Are you claiming here that getting a high quantity of links is an effective strategy?[/quote] :rolleyes:


and your title will chang soon or later within 2 weeks. beleive me. my friend.
And what if I don't believe you? :lol:

jawn_tech
12-30-2008, 03:04 PM
I think the inference is that if one changes their title and description, then gets a sudden influx of links, google will display the new title and description dramatically faster. That's the best I can make of it.

Not saying I agree or disagree, but maybe that's what is being said. I haven't seen anything yet to back this up. But I do know a sudden influx of links can draw attention to the means they were aquired.

deepsand
12-30-2008, 03:58 PM
I think the inference is that if one changes their title and description, then gets a sudden influx of links, google will display the new title and description dramatically faster. That's the best I can make of it.
Are you suggesting that such rise in IBLs might trigger an early re-crawl of the target of said IBLs, those resulting in Google becoming aware of the change in Title/Description more quickly?

jawn_tech
01-01-2009, 09:35 PM
Are you suggesting that such rise in IBLs might trigger an early re-crawl of the target of said IBLs, those resulting in Google becoming aware of the change in Title/Description more quickly?

Who, me? I wasn't suggesting anything. I was trying to translate the post by xuchunfeng1984 that was confounding everyone. Although that post was removed by another mod, for reasons I wholeheartedly agree with. In the good spirit of forum rules, I give the following public service announcement -- to those who make silly little posts for the sake of links, be afraid. Be very afraid. We are watching. :evil:

deepsand
01-02-2009, 12:39 AM
Who, me? I wasn't suggesting anything. I was trying to translate the post by xuchunfeng1984 that was confounding everyone.
Nevertheless, is not such plausible?

webullswobble
01-02-2009, 03:00 AM
Interesting. What if the page in question is a blog post, or is on a site using a blogging platform. Or do you mean a blog post on a separate site.


:cool:

Use a new new post to link to the page - it matters not if the page in question is on a blog of any form. The new post can be either on the same site or blog elsewhere as long as the pingy wingy is triggered.

Another interesting theory which I shall test is to change the title to "new page 1" and repeat the steps as before.

wige
01-02-2009, 09:36 AM
Nevertheless, is not such plausible?

Personally, I think it is probable. In fact, Google has indicated numerous times, in various ways, that crawl rate is influenced by link wieght. The higher your pure PR, the more frequently your page will be crawled. If Google discovers a large number of links to a page since that page was last crawled, Google will supposedly prioritize that page for recrawling.

deepsand
01-02-2009, 02:38 PM
Personally, I think it is probable. In fact, Google has indicated numerous times, in various ways, that crawl rate is influenced by link wieght. The higher your pure PR, the more frequently your page will be crawled. If Google discovers a large number of links to a page since that page was last crawled, Google will supposedly prioritize that page for recrawling.
Given that an increase in the rate of accumulation of IBLs could signal a significant change to the content and/or structure of a site, it would indeed be logical to revisit such sites for possible re-indexing more frequently than those not exhibiting such trait.

CarolSLC
01-02-2009, 04:04 PM
When I've changed title and description, it took a few weeks for the changes to appear, but they did appear automatically. I didn't do anything but wait, so I don't know if any of the interesting ideas posted here work or not. :-)

jawn_tech
01-03-2009, 08:45 PM
I believe many of the above are plausible. Whether they are actually the case -- I'd like to see them tested and shown. But they sound logical. The only sure thing that I've known to work in every situation is: time.

Personally, I'm going to try webullswobble's pingy wingy trick because I think it's a fascinating idea.

:cool: