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kgun
04-19-2008, 10:13 AM
Why should bots use my bandwidth and knowledge for free? Some of them view my sites as a link farm and may even give them a penalize. You may answer, kgun this is laughable. May be it is, but I give away much information to the SE BOTS that they grab and leave with a negative vote.

How much does the average person know about finance?
It has often been said, if you ask a group a question and a knowledgable person the same question, the group will give the best answer. I think of programs that you see on Tv where you have the option to ask a friend or ask the audience.
Related to 2. above, is the situation dependent on the type of question you pose?
How many bots have told investors about the last downturn in financial markets?
How many friends do you have among the bots that told you about the credit crunch and the subprime mortgage crisis?
You may laugh and give me a negative rep point, but I think I know more about finance and economics than most Se BOTS. Their normally distributed votes may even be biased. Very little is normally distributed in financial markets. Yes, I know the law of large numbers. But in financial markets, that is very often related to sheeps and flock behaviour that pass the edge.

"Sober nations have all at once become desperate gamblers, and risked almost their existence upon the turn of a piece of paper. To trace the history of the most prominent of these delusions is the object of the present pages. Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."

iTulip.com - Know Your Mania (http://www.itulip.com/knowyourmania.html)

There is nothing new under the sun.Yes, I know your answer(s).

How do you find your links? You should pay them.
Block them and observe your site falling as a stone on the SERRP's.
If they do not bring you traffic, it is your and not their fault.
This is like the person that once asked to pay for linking to him. I have found one while surfing since the web's start.
Move your link farm to your extranet, and let the market set the price of your services.I am especially awaiting ctabuk's (don't move the thread to the break room) and tubby's answer:roll:

Related link:

A New Search Engine Approach based on copyright.

Activeminds Blog - A New Search Engine Approach - February 18th 2007 (http://www.activeminds.ca/blogarticle.php?blogname=software&id=23)

KW search (for you):
trans copyright

Was this thread a joke?

Conclusion:
So Se BOT, give me a bit (not byte) of your eMoney;)

Peter (IMC)
04-20-2008, 12:11 AM
Bots don't vote as far as I know. They just "grab" the info on your site, and most do so with your permission.

The voting is done by the internet it self. Internet being everybody that participates in one way or another in the internet.

Search engines interprete these votes the way they see best for the quality of their search results. And the ones like Google can give a bit of that eMoney (Adsense).

Why do you think that some search engines see your sites as a link farm?

kgun
04-21-2008, 04:49 PM
Only one answer so long.

<side note>
In todays news on Cnn:

Google, the search engine company that has promised to "not be evil" valued at $86.1bn tops BrandZ website home, brand equity management tool (http://www.brandz.com/output/) rating for second consecutive year.
</side note>
But Google indirectly pay for visiting my site through AdSensa ads on my site.

So follow up question:

Should I block all SeBOTS aside from Google? As an economist, I see arguments in support of that view.

Peter (IMC)
04-21-2008, 10:15 PM
So follow up question:

Should I block all SeBOTS aside from Google? As an economist, I see arguments in support of that view.

How much does it cost? I think the trouble of blocking them is more costly than that little bit of bandwidth that you gain with it. And most likely you won't even have to go for a bigger package at your host anyway.

kgun
04-22-2008, 08:30 AM
How much does it cost? I think the trouble of blocking them is more costly than that little bit of bandwidth that you gain with it.
Scroll down to the heading "Advice for webmasters, especially those who want to set up a new site" and read to cross site scripting (XSS). It is easy.



And most likely you won't even have to go for a bigger package at your host anyway.
Are you sure? You run a risk. Why should all the bad bots and referrers use your bandwith and server capacity for free?

collusion
04-22-2008, 09:39 PM
Interesting issue. I barter seo services for a couple servers and bandwidth is not a problem. It would be plain dumb in my opinion to block a search engine if it gives you traffic though.

kgun
04-23-2008, 08:39 AM
It would be plain dumb in my opinion to block a search engine if it gives you traffic though.
Agree.