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Webnauts
02-23-2004, 08:36 AM
I have a question: I want to use only numbers for my accesskeys, but on my in construction web site I have 11 links.

I have planned using:

S. Skip Navigation
0. Home
1. Services
2. Our Team
3. Memberships
4. Site Map
5. Contact
6. Privacy & Accessibility Statement
7. Disclaimer
8. Accesskeys
9. Print Version

Though I still have a problem. I use the accesskey "S" for Skip Navigation, but this accesskey and keystroke is used by IBM HPR for "Settings" and JAWS Laptop Settings (Using IE 5.5/6) for "Changing screen echo".
See more here: http://www.wats.ca/resources/accesskeysandkeystrokes/38

Another problem is, I would need accesskeys for my "Contact" forms for:

- Name
- E-Mail
- Comments, etc

I do not want to use any letters for accesskeys, while see here:

1. Use numbers for accesskeys http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2003AprJun/0117.html

2. Accesskeys and Reserved Keystroke Combinations http://www.wats.ca/resources/accesskeysandkeystrokes/38

Any idea how to get this managed?
matauri
02-23-2004, 11:15 AM
Funny, I was just thinking of this today Webnaut. I realized that I was using attributes used in system functions, and that I should use numbers. But there lies the problem such as yours, what to do after 10?

One solution I came to was to have a list of access keys used for each site, with letters & numbers, eliminating those that are used by systems.

I'd be interested to hear if there is an alternative too.


Cindy
Webnauts
02-23-2004, 11:27 AM
As I have already pointed out...there are only 10 available numbers, and I have 11 links.

So, there's no way around using at least one non-numeric character.

Sure, I could try creating a convoluted javascript way of capturing key inputs
and looking for numeric combinations of something (e.g. if the user hits ALT+0 twice real fast), but
I would never appreciate relying on javascript, while that is not the solution, either.

The only option I can see now: I must get used to the idea that I have to use at least one non-numeric
character, and/or conglomerate my pages (e.g. why can't "accesskeys" be part of the "accessibility statement" page ? Same for the "disclaimer". Actually, 6,7,8 could all be made into a single page.)
matauri
02-23-2004, 12:45 PM
So, there's no way around using at least one non-numeric character.

Yeah, I'm not sure how we would around not using a non-numeric character, unless... can we use double digits? Is there a reason why we cant?



Cindy
Webnauts
02-23-2004, 04:36 PM
So, there's no way around using at least one non-numeric character.

Yeah, I'm not sure how we would around not using a non-numeric character, unless... can we use double digits? Is there a reason why we cant?



Cindy

Sure there are letters not reserved by OS, Browsers, etc, but I avoid using them. You never know...

Well Cindy, I tried double digits that with diverse browsers. It is definetely not possible. And besides we must keep in mind the physical ability of disable users.
matauri
02-23-2004, 11:29 PM
Webnaut ... How would the use of double digits be an accessibility problem?



Cindy
Webnauts
02-24-2004, 10:18 AM
Webnaut ... How would the use of double digits be an accessibility problem?



Cindy

It would be a problem, if the user with physical disabilities must hold more than one key at once. But anyway, user agents do not support that.
It is just a hypothesis...
matauri
02-24-2004, 10:31 AM
ok. So we're back to the same problem. What name do we give our access keys after 10 links.

A prob I think I will look into further about.



Cindy
Webnauts
02-25-2004, 02:43 AM
ok. So we're back to the same problem. What name do we give our access keys after 10 links.

A prob I think I will look into further about.



Cindy

Cindy I would appreciate if you would keep me up-to-date. Thanks!