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Alan J
10-01-2007, 11:39 PM
I have recently been refused a link from one of my sites because Google shows that the page does not exist when you put the following into the Google search bar:

site: blah blah blah/Links.htm
cache: blah blah blah/Links.htm
info: blah blah blah/Links.htm

Google sends back :

Your search - site: blah blah blah/Links.htm - did not match any documents.

I do not understand why this is the case as the page is there and has been for a long, long time. If you enter the URL into your browser the page comes up fine.

Can anyone offer a reason why this should be and how I get the page 'recognised'?

tamecrow
10-02-2007, 05:20 AM
Google hasn't indexed it. Have you submitted your sitemaps to Google? If so, have you checked that robots are able to access this page in your robots.txt and robots meta files?

ctabuk
10-02-2007, 06:21 AM
AlanJ - agreed with tamecrow - also sorry - but you are showing 4 sigs - Only 3 are allowed - please delete one of them. Thanks David

Alan J
10-03-2007, 02:50 AM
Thank you tamecrow and ctabuk for your replies. As a newbie you'll ahve to forgive my ignorance here guys....still learning....but how exactly do I check that robots can access the page i.e I am unfamiliar with the term/use 'robots.txt' and 'robots meta files'. Also what are sigs? You say I have 4 and I am allowed 3....?

Any help much appreciated.

tamecrow
10-03-2007, 04:06 AM
Hi Alan J,

If you can post the URL in question or PM it to me then I'll take a look for you.

ctabuk
10-03-2007, 04:16 AM
Thank you tamecrow and ctabuk for your replies. As a newbie you'll ahve to forgive my ignorance here guys....still learning....but how exactly do I check that robots can access the page i.e I am unfamiliar with the term/use 'robots.txt' and 'robots meta files'. Also what are sigs? You say I have 4 and I am allowed 3....?

Any help much appreciated.


I have removed one - sigs are the links you place in your posts.

Alan J
10-03-2007, 08:08 PM
ctabuk - no problem - sorry was not aware of the limitation.

tamecrow - it is rentalhomesneardisneyworld.com/Links.htm - thanks and appreciated.

tamecrow
10-04-2007, 04:58 AM
Hi Alan,

You don't have a robots.txt file at all - You can read more about that here: Robots.txt: All you need to know (http://www.free-seo-news.com/all-about-robots-txt.htm)

You should also create text and HTML sitemaps and submit your text sitemap through Google's Webmaster Console. This will allow Google to crawl each page on your site and subsequently index them.

Alan J
10-04-2007, 01:31 PM
Thank you for the advice tamecrow - I shall take a look at your recommended reading and shall take on board your advice concerning the Google Webmaster Console.

ladraut
10-05-2007, 12:37 PM
you are on a linux server - letters are case sensitive (Windows IIS doesn't care)

you have "Links" capitalized in your file name which is ok, but are you trying to access with http://rentalhomesneardisneyworld.com/links.htm instead of Orlando Villas for Vacation Rental (http://rentalhomesneardisneyworld.com/Links.htm) ?

ladraut
10-05-2007, 12:44 PM
I see that my post converted

"http://rentalhomesneardisneyworld.com/Links.htm"

to "Orlando Villas for Vacation Rental" ???!!!

The sentance that I submitted was:

you have "Links" capitalized in your file name which is ok, but are you trying to access with http://rentalhomesneardisneyworld.com/links.htm instead of "http://rentalhomesneardisneyworld.com/Links.htm"

I just added the quotes so that this forum software doesn't swap the url with the page's title like it did in my other post

Back to the topic, are you trying to access with "links" instead of "Links" ?

incrediblehelp
10-05-2007, 10:11 PM
I have recently been refused a link from one of my sites because Google shows that the page does not exist when you put the following into the Google search bar

1. First I would email them and tell them those operators are not accurate

2. Then I wouldn't care about not getting a link from them, since they are using these type of operators as reciprocal link quality analysis tools.

Alan J
10-06-2007, 03:51 AM
Thanks ladraut. That got me thinking as I did do it with an upper case 'L'. When you put in the Links page without the .htm it comes up ok! A bit odd! However using that same practice, the links page "Links-Accommodation-Europe_I-M" does not come up. If you do it with the .htm it does not come up either. If the spiders can reach some of the links pages why is this page (amongst a few others) not registering?

Webnauts
10-06-2007, 05:15 AM
If you were about exchanging links, think about that twice:

I link to you if you link to me is not a good practice anymore. There is no long term value from an SEO point of view as the search engines perceive this as a tactic to manipulate them for the sake of inflating your rankings.

And the worse is that you call the page links.html. That triggers filters, which means that that page and its links will be devaluated if that did not happen already.

Something nice to have a look at: Link Pages are Dead - Long Live Content Pages. - Jim Boykin’s Internet Marketing Blog (http://www.jimboykin.com/what-a-links-page-should-not-look-like/)

Just my two ... I suppose you know what. :)

Alan J
10-10-2007, 12:59 AM
Thanks webnauts - sounds like it could be good advice about calling the page 'links'. I try to do triangular links where I can, however a lot of sites including 'linking' companies that work on behalf of clients to get link partners won't do triangular linking.

Webnauts
10-10-2007, 04:58 AM
Thanks webnauts - sounds like it could be good advice about calling the page 'links'.

Oops? Did I day so? You should not name those pages links or anything similar.

Here is our internal policy/requirements we have set for outsourcing our link building projects. Just that you can make a picture which practice could be the best:

* Pages where the links will reside must be indexed by Google, Yahoo, MSN.
* Page Rank of the page where the link will reside will be visible in the Google Toolbar.
* Domain must be at least 3 years old or must not be expiring within the next 3 years.
* Different C-class IP.
* Relevant content of the linking website to the content of your website.
* Link should not reside on pages that end with links.php, or links.html, links.asp, links.jsp or anything similar.
* The links should not have rel="nofollow" tag.
* The pages the links will reside should not have "nofollow" meta tags.
* The pages the links will reside should not be disallowed in the robots.txt
* The pages the links will reside should not have more than 100 links, including the internal links, and may have no more than of 60% the total OBLs on that page, including the internal links.
* If paid (sponsored, etc) links are living on the page where the link will live, they shall have a "nofollow" attribute.
* Anchor text should be the relevant keyword and/or key phrases which is used to link back to the clients website page(s).
* Weekly check of your links on those pages to insure good placement (at least the first 3 months).
* No Dynamic link or redirection link.
* Do not use link popularity software.
* Not from directories, blogs and article directories.
* No FFA websites.
* No adult websites.
* No link farms or web rings.

wige
10-10-2007, 09:55 AM
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If paid (sponsored, etc) links are living on the page where the link will live, they shall have a "nofollow" attribute.
I like these guidelines, although I would propose an addendum to the above rule, that would be that the non-paid links must be seperated both in the code and in the page layout, from the nofollowed paid links. Otherwise, if the site puts all the links in one area (Related Links section of editorial links in the top left, Sponsored Links right below, for example) Google might see the nofollows and flag all the non-tagged links as possible spam. Google has said they are looking at pattern recognition and context analysis for finding the paid links.
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Alan J
10-11-2007, 12:21 PM
Thanks webnauts. When I said it sounds like it could be good advice about calling the page 'links' I understood that the advice was, NOT to do it! Sorry if I confused you here. Your further 'advice' list is also appreciated.

Webnauts
10-11-2007, 10:47 PM
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I like these guidelines, although I would propose an addendum to the above rule, that would be that the non-paid links must be seperated both in the code and in the page layout, from the nofollowed paid links. Otherwise, if the site puts all the links in one area (Related Links section of editorial links in the top left, Sponsored Links right below, for example) Google might see the nofollows and flag all the non-tagged links as possible spam. Google has said they are looking at pattern recognition and context analysis for finding the paid links.
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Good point Wige. But to run such a linking campaign will be far more expensive. :lol:

Webnauts
10-11-2007, 10:51 PM
Thanks webnauts. When I said it sounds like it could be good advice about calling the page 'links' I understood that the advice was, NOT to do it! Sorry if I confused you here. Your further 'advice' list is also appreciated.
Further advise list? What should I do for living then? Cleaning toilettes? :lol: